Unexpected Travel Tech: Apple Pay
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Changing subjects back to the original... I went to Canada last week for the Mets/Blue Jays games(looks like I've seen the downfall of this years Mets, but thats another story). Almost everywhere I went, I was able to use Apple Pay. I just asked the vendor if they supported "Tap to Pay." At the Rogers Centre it got annoying, because using the Apple Watch became a conversation starter.
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More or less the reason Australian Banks aren't eager to give apple a cut of their transactions to roll out compatibility with Apple Pay. Paypass/Paywave (the Visa equivalent) have been commonplace in Australia for 2-3 years now, with chip and pin becoming mandatory either last year or the year before.
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Does Apple Pay work if you do not have an active cellular data connection, such as overseas? There are many times when I'm at an overseas location without free WiFi and I do not have data roaming turned on.
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The phone needs to connect to the net to authorize cards when you add them to PassBook, but after that, the networking is all done by the vendor terminal.
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More or less the reason Australian Banks aren't eager to give apple a cut of their transactions to roll out compatibility with Apple Pay. Paypass/Paywave (the Visa equivalent) have been commonplace in Australia for 2-3 years now, with chip and pin becoming mandatory either last year or the year before.
Because PayPass has been so prevalent over 2-3 years, the infrastructure to make ApplePay ubiquitous is already there, and easier than Chip and Sig cards.
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No connection necessary. I ran a transaction from my watch today after leaving the phone at home.
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I guess this is the main reason banks aren't keen on Apple Pay, it competes directly with them.
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I'd caution people with Apple Pay. Right now on the black market stolen iTunes accounts are more expensive than a stolen Amex Plat. One of the "sellers" told me it's because they'll "restore" the account onto a stolen iPhone and apparently Apple Pay auto-populates with the credit cards on file.
Not sure about the data auto-populating, but I highly recommend setting your Apple ID to require Two-Step Verification for things like adding a new device. I suggest that any security aware person enable two-step verification wherever it is offered (Google, Apple, Dropbox, etc). Then your stolen apple ID and password will not be useful (unless they stole your Apple device too, and you didn't set a password on the Apple device).
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This is inaccurate. Contactless cards are readily available from USA-issuers. See this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...artphones.html
What is true is that many (most?) USA-issued cards will not work with contactless systems in countries where Chip & PIN is the norm. However, there are some, including HSBC.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...artphones.html
What is true is that many (most?) USA-issued cards will not work with contactless systems in countries where Chip & PIN is the norm. However, there are some, including HSBC.
Most of these chains are not places I visit a lot. The places I do visit have very poor ApplePay penetration, and I almost always forget to use it even when available because of this lack of penetration.
In Australia, almost every hand-held terminal worked with my phone, and these were almost all small businesses, not chains.
The fact it was available everywhere made me try it every time.
In Australia, almost every hand-held terminal worked with my phone, and these were almost all small businesses, not chains.
The fact it was available everywhere made me try it every time.
What I'd really like though is for gas station pumps to start supporting NFC.