Official 2015: Which Smartphone Should I Get?
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Any interest in the new Moto X Pure Edition coming in September and unlocked for all US carriers? Great specs - now waiting to see about camera.
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I just bought new iPhone 6 plus and it's great! We just upgrade it. We won't need the old iPhone 4, but it was very small. I like a bigger iPhone and it's much better. I can barely see it.
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just to be clear, the new iphone 6s and 6s+ are due to be announced in about two weeks, probably available within a month.?
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More interested in the Moto X Play for the slightly smaller screen, more efficient processor, and larger battery... unfortunately it's going to be Verizon exclusive in the USA as the Droid Maxx 2. It will still be $300 off-contract, so I'm hoping there's at least partial AT&T LTE band band support... otherwise I may look into importing one from Canada or just go with a Zenfone 2 64gb.
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WSJ: Moto X Pure Edition Review: One of the Year’s Best Smartphone Bargains
Wired: Review: Moto X Pure Edition
The Verge: Motorola Moto X Pure Edition review
I'm seriously considering the Moto X Pure to replace my slow, laggy and prone to freeze year and a half old LG G2.
The 21-megapixel camera is the most disappointing aspect of the Moto X. Daytime shots are sharp with natural colors, but nighttime and low-light shots are the complete opposite. Most of these have been washed in darkness and full of noise. I even took a few pictures that were so bad you can’t clearly make out what I was attempting to photograph.
I asked Motorola about the poor low-light shooting. The company says they’re working on software updates that will improve that performance.
While it remains to be seen if a software fix really could help, there’s also no manual mode in the camera app, and no optical image stabilization—two things that likely could have helped the Moto X’s low-light photos. Compared to Motorola’s past camera travesties, this is an improvement. But the cameras we’ve seen this year in phones from Apple, LG and Samsung are much better (and come at higher cost).
I asked Motorola about the poor low-light shooting. The company says they’re working on software updates that will improve that performance.
While it remains to be seen if a software fix really could help, there’s also no manual mode in the camera app, and no optical image stabilization—two things that likely could have helped the Moto X’s low-light photos. Compared to Motorola’s past camera travesties, this is an improvement. But the cameras we’ve seen this year in phones from Apple, LG and Samsung are much better (and come at higher cost).
Wired: Review: Moto X Pure Edition
The camera doesn’t suck anymore. The 21-megapixel camera on the back takes clean, sharp photos in most situations, and even does well enough in low light that I wouldn’t fear taking this phone anywhere. Ditto the 4K video, which looks great. The phone does have a tendency to slightly de-saturate photos shot in bright light, making everything look a little duller than real life. But that’s nothing an Instagram filter can’t solve. The camera is fast, too, as is the twisty gesture you make to access it. It’s not the best camera you can get—that’d be the Samsung lineup or the iPhone—but it’s good enough.
My only lingering issues with the camera are with its app. I hate its shooting mechanic, where you just tap on the screen and it focuses, exposes, and captures in one fell swoop. Over and over, it just missed focus—and enabling, then awkwardly dragging the focus ring around is hardly a real solution. It’s even weirdly confusing to use; most people understand what a shutter button looks like, but hand someone your phone and say, “Just poke the screen anywhere,” and see how that goes. I will say this: It is a ridiculously fast way to take pictures. Shooting landscapes, people, anything easy, you’ll be fine. But I stood at a concert last weekend, trying to photograph the performers, and I mostly just got blurred mess. Still, though—it’s mostly a great camera.
My only lingering issues with the camera are with its app. I hate its shooting mechanic, where you just tap on the screen and it focuses, exposes, and captures in one fell swoop. Over and over, it just missed focus—and enabling, then awkwardly dragging the focus ring around is hardly a real solution. It’s even weirdly confusing to use; most people understand what a shutter button looks like, but hand someone your phone and say, “Just poke the screen anywhere,” and see how that goes. I will say this: It is a ridiculously fast way to take pictures. Shooting landscapes, people, anything easy, you’ll be fine. But I stood at a concert last weekend, trying to photograph the performers, and I mostly just got blurred mess. Still, though—it’s mostly a great camera.
The Verge: Motorola Moto X Pure Edition review
Perhaps the biggest (and most anticipated) upgrade from last year to this is the Moto X’s new 21-megapixel camera. It’s a significant leap in both resolution and capability over the 13-megapixel model from last year, and it does a much better job at taking photos. But last year’s model set a really low bar, and while the new camera is much better, it’s still outclassed by Apple, LG, and Samsung’s cameras.
Images taken in good lighting conditions are bright and colorful, though there’s a tendency for them to look over-sharpened. It makes the images look unnaturally digital and not as attractive as those captured by the Note 5, iPhone 6 Plus, or G4. In poor lighting, the Moto X does a much better job than before, but it still misses focus often and pictures come out much softer than I’d expect. I also wish it had optical image stabilization, which has basically become a must for any premier smartphone.
If this sounds like I’m being overly critical of the camera, that’s because I am. The camera is one of the most important features on any smartphone, and it’s something that many people use every single day. It’s one of the few things that can make or ruin a smartphone experience, as my colleague Vlad Savov has pointed out time and again. The Moto X’s camera isn’t bad by any means, it’s just not as good as other options.
On the plus side, the Moto X’s camera is better than virtually any other option in its price range, including the OnePlus 2 or ZTE Axon Pro. Its app is also quick, and the twist gesture to launch the camera is faster and more reliable than before. (It’s still not as quick as Samsung’s double tap on the home button, however.) But if you’re looking for the absolute best smartphone camera, the Moto X doesn’t have it.
Images taken in good lighting conditions are bright and colorful, though there’s a tendency for them to look over-sharpened. It makes the images look unnaturally digital and not as attractive as those captured by the Note 5, iPhone 6 Plus, or G4. In poor lighting, the Moto X does a much better job than before, but it still misses focus often and pictures come out much softer than I’d expect. I also wish it had optical image stabilization, which has basically become a must for any premier smartphone.
If this sounds like I’m being overly critical of the camera, that’s because I am. The camera is one of the most important features on any smartphone, and it’s something that many people use every single day. It’s one of the few things that can make or ruin a smartphone experience, as my colleague Vlad Savov has pointed out time and again. The Moto X’s camera isn’t bad by any means, it’s just not as good as other options.
On the plus side, the Moto X’s camera is better than virtually any other option in its price range, including the OnePlus 2 or ZTE Axon Pro. Its app is also quick, and the twist gesture to launch the camera is faster and more reliable than before. (It’s still not as quick as Samsung’s double tap on the home button, however.) But if you’re looking for the absolute best smartphone camera, the Moto X doesn’t have it.
I really like the fact that it comes without all of Verizon's bloatware and that it has no manufacturer overlay or skin which affects performance; however, I'm now using the phone as my camera when traveling and this could be a deal breaker.
I guess that I will not pre-order and just wait until I can experiment with it myself before I decide.
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Sounds like just using the Google Camera app (or some other 3rd party camera app) would take care of most of the camera-related complaints.
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Today, I received an email promotion from Verizon for "an exclusive opportunity to upgrade early with our Device Payment option." They are basically offering to put me on the Edge plan on condition that I trade in my present phone. I later found out that it will be $5 a month more than the new Verizon One plan ($20/month for each smartphone line). I need to call back and discuss this with the sales representative. For two phones, over the course of two years, it adds up to $240.
Assuming that the cost of the monthly service could be satisfactorily resolved, I was all ready to set the wheels in motion to upgrade to the LG G4, which meets all of my requirements, except for the bloatware.
As I was doing my due diligence on the G4, I learned that the G4 Pro is about to be announced next month.
Decisions, decisions...
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My Galaxy S4 was becoming really laggy--and hot when put under any kind of processor stress (and sometimes just randomly). The screen is also cracked, and I'll eventually get around to replacing that. I bit the bullet and did a factory reset the other night.
The one nice thing is that it didn't get rid of root on the phone, although I did have to reconfigure everything in Xposed. The other perk is that the phone is very fast again; the only slightly laggy app is Swype.
Now I'm pretty confident that this phone will be perfectly serviceable until reviews of the new LG Nexus 5 come out.
The one nice thing is that it didn't get rid of root on the phone, although I did have to reconfigure everything in Xposed. The other perk is that the phone is very fast again; the only slightly laggy app is Swype.
Now I'm pretty confident that this phone will be perfectly serviceable until reviews of the new LG Nexus 5 come out.
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Nexus 6 is now on sale for $350/$400 on Amazon...
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Unloc.../dp/B00R1984DI
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Unloc.../dp/B00R1984DI
First, this is a GSM model that does not have CDMA capabilities and thus is incompatible with Verizon; I'm not about to switch carriers. Verizon is the only cellular carrier with reliable service in the hilly area where I reside.
Secondly, I've checked out the Verizon version of this phone. It is cumbersome - way larger and heavier in comparison the 5.7" models that I'm considering - and an awkward fit for my pockets.
I have tried the factory reset. It helped for about two or three weeks and then it got worse than before.
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Nexus 6 is now on sale for $350/$400 on Amazon...
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Unloc.../dp/B00R1984DI
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Unloc.../dp/B00R1984DI
http://bgr.com/2015/09/03/nexus-5-20...-release-date/
The most recent leaks about the 2015 Nexus 5 indicate the device will feature a 5.2-inch Full HD display, Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 processor and Andreno 418 GPU, 3GB of RAM, 16GB or 32GB of storage, a 12.3-megapixel rear-facing camera, 5-megapixel front-facing camera, a USB Type-C connector (either USB 2.0 or USB 3.0 connectivity), 2,700 mAh battery and Android 6.0.
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I'm currently waiting to see what the new Nexus 5 price point ends up being... I'm not sure I'd drop $399 for it, but $349 might be right at the edge of what I'd spend. I'm also waiting to see if a US version of the Zuk Z1 has ATT friendly LTE bands, though based on the international model listed on Expansys, it's not looking promising.
I REALLY wish more Snapdragon 615 phones would start hitting in the mainstream, especially in the 5.2"-5.5" range with 2gb RAM and 1080p screen. I really don't need more processor speed than that and I appreciate the multi-threading capabilities along with the battery-friendly nature. A 5.2" Moto X Play would be my IDEAL phone, but just being able to get an ATT friendly version of Moto X Play in its current form in the US would have me yelling "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!", at least at the $300 price point.
I REALLY wish more Snapdragon 615 phones would start hitting in the mainstream, especially in the 5.2"-5.5" range with 2gb RAM and 1080p screen. I really don't need more processor speed than that and I appreciate the multi-threading capabilities along with the battery-friendly nature. A 5.2" Moto X Play would be my IDEAL phone, but just being able to get an ATT friendly version of Moto X Play in its current form in the US would have me yelling "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!", at least at the $300 price point.
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Thanks.
First, this is a GSM model that does not have CDMA capabilities and thus is incompatible with Verizon; I'm not about to switch carriers. Verizon is the only cellular carrier with reliable service in the hilly area where I reside.
Secondly, I've checked out the Verizon version of this phone. It is cumbersome - way larger and heavier in comparison the 5.7" models that I'm considering - and an awkward fit for my pockets.
First, this is a GSM model that does not have CDMA capabilities and thus is incompatible with Verizon; I'm not about to switch carriers. Verizon is the only cellular carrier with reliable service in the hilly area where I reside.
Secondly, I've checked out the Verizon version of this phone. It is cumbersome - way larger and heavier in comparison the 5.7" models that I'm considering - and an awkward fit for my pockets.
As for the size, there is a brief adjustment period, but now I'm ruined and an never go to a smaller device.
Last edited by SRQ Guy; Sep 4, 2015 at 12:46 pm