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Old Jul 9, 09, 5:57 pm   #46
 
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5. The bottom line is that you dont really know how the WTMD works and therefore you are speculating. You are speaking like a person that is in the know, and you are not.
You quoted from my post but did not attribute the words to me. (In other words, you are posting responses on this bulletin board like you know what you are doing, but the results show that you do not). Fact of the matter is that I know exactly how the WTMD works, what it's weak points are, and how best to get borderline (small, light) metallic objects through it.

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I still stick with my recommendation that you put it inside one of your carry-ons. Some folks forget their wallets. Hate to tell you, but you never know who is in back of you in line. At some airports, there are fellow travelers who look for opportunities like this.
Yes, so the "officers" at one upstate NY airport, as I previously reported, can rip open roll-aboards, pockets and wallets in search of "a blob" on the X-Ray image. Defeating walletitis with TSA is far easier, put the offending wallet in your back pocket. I have yet to see a TS"O" scrutinize receding pax, the way they scrutinize on approach, and have yet to have a rear bulge result in a pat down, the way the thick wallet front bulge does.
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Old Jul 9, 09, 6:00 pm   #47
 
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Old Jul 9, 09, 6:49 pm   #48
 
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How can I respond to such paranoia?

Do what you wish with your wallet. You're on your own, pal.

Rich. On the basis of a "blob" on the X-Ray, TS"O"s tear into my roll aboard, unzip my jacket pocket, then begin inspecting my wallet with the riffle through the bill compartment act, and I'm the one who is paranoid.
Or, for several times on sequential trips, (interestingly this was while the TSA cash is contraband offensive seemed to be in full swing) the WTMD minder notes a bulge in my front pocket and decides a pat down is imperative. Several dozen times since, wallet in back pocket, even more overstuffed, no issue.

(Oh, wait, I forgot, this wasn't at SAT, where you follow the rules, unless they require us to report criminal activity by one of your own.)

I am not and never will be your pal. Please get that straight ASAP. You represent, in large measure, too much of what is wrong with TSA.
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Old Jul 9, 09, 7:22 pm   #50
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How can I respond to such paranoia?

Do what you wish with your wallet. You're on your own, pal.
I am never ask with TSA to take my wallet out. I kept in the pocket all of the time. Where I went through at metal detector and there is no beep. I didn't have any suspicious problems from TSA.
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Old Jul 9, 09, 7:27 pm   #51
 
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Why the hard-on?
Actually it's disposable income, or as you might see it, contraband cash.

To tell the truth, at your checkpoints, the only thing aroused is my anger.
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Old Jul 9, 09, 8:50 pm   #53
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And there is no reason for you to take it out. My suggestion is that if your wallet alarms the WTMD (usually because of something inside the wallet like a military coin, metal plated credit-card of some type, coin purse built into the wallet, etc.) rather than removing the wallet and placing it inside a tray or bowl, put it inside a pocket of your carry-on instead. Unfortunately, it is not uncommon for a passenger to walk away without retrieving a wallet or other pocket item that was divested after alarming the WTMD. But people rarely walk away from the checkpoint without the carry-on bag, purse or other similar item.
Had a couple TSOs (at different airports) poke at my back pocket, ask what the bulge was, and I removed my wallet. The TSOs proceeded to open my wallet and go through the contents. FYI my wallet didn't alarm either the WTMD or the hand wand. So would you enlighten me why those TSOs went through my wallet and what they were looking for since nothing alarmed?
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Old Jul 9, 09, 10:19 pm   #54
 
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So would you enlighten me why those TSOs went through my wallet and what they were looking for since nothing alarmed?
They went through your wallet because they can. They were looking for anything. Because they can.

The best response you can expect from our resident screeners is that their colleagues may have been a trifle over-zealous and that they would never do that at their airport. Uh-huh.

Then again perhaps it's all SSI, Citizen.
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Old Jul 12, 09, 7:57 am   #55
 
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Metal or no metal, I usually put everything from my pockets into my carry-on just through force of habit when passing through the checkpoint.
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Old Jul 12, 09, 9:17 am   #56
 
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Had a couple TSOs (at different airports) poke at my back pocket, ask what the bulge was, and I removed my wallet. The TSOs proceeded to open my wallet and go through the contents. FYI my wallet didn't alarm either the WTMD or the hand wand. So would you enlighten me why those TSOs went through my wallet and what they were looking for since nothing alarmed?
Just as with anything else, they're looking for something worth stealing.

Some security guard clown starts going through my personal items, I'm flagging a real officer and pressing attempted theft charges. If it didn't alarm, they've got no business looking through it.

Numerous examples here and in the press of TSO's stealing stuff, sometimes from right under a passenger's nose, and we're the ones declared paranoid?
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