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Old Jul 3, 09, 8:42 am   #16
 
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I never take my wallet out unless being given the full wand treatment. Yes, TSOs have been through my wallet. Good for a few moments of unnescessary travel excitement.
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Old Jul 3, 09, 9:09 am   #17
 
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I take everything out/off, including my watch, ANYTHING that MIGHT set off the alarm, and if you set the alarm off , we all know it usually means you get to be molested by one of the smurfs, after they get done tearing your carryon apart and wanding you.

Anything that might shorten the time, however brief it may be, that I have to deal with the TSO dweebs I gladly do even though it might take me a few extra seconds to put away my wallet or put my watch back on.

Then of course there are the "random secondarys" and the possibility some of the TSO's might have slithered down into the concourse and be conducting "random gate screenings" on your flight
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Old Jul 3, 09, 9:13 am   #18
 
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Old Jul 3, 09, 9:55 am   #19
 
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What about all the coins?
Even my shoes set off the detector, and only thing metal in them are those tiny eyelets.
I think you will find that your shoes have a metal support strip in the sole, and that is more than enough to set the WTMD off. Most shoes do, with the exception of what some call tennis shoes.
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Old Jul 3, 09, 11:32 am   #20
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I've never taken my wallet out and don't intend to. Less metal than in my teeth.

My usual travel watch has a non-metallic case, so I leave it on too.

OTOH, my belt often has to come off because of its buckle. It's not a showy one, but it has some weight to it.

YMMV.
While my teeth have no metal, like you I've never put my wallet in a bin. Nor my "backup" wallet.

I leave the Rolex at home. My non-magnetic case "sports watch" keeps as good a time, is lighter and cost about a hundred times less.

Belt? Several years ago, I founda couple of comfortable web belts with aluminum buckles. Haven't set off an alarm yet.

That leaves coins and car keys to go in my carry on....(but that dratted ZipLoc still in hand).
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Old Jul 3, 09, 11:48 am   #21
 
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I think you will find that your shoes have a metal support strip in the sole, and that is more than enough to set the WTMD off. Most shoes do, with the exception of what some call tennis shoes.
What that is counter to what your superiors have said all over the place in that the WTMD arent sensitive enough down low to detect metal in shoes. Gee yet another a 1 in centillion risk/chance (10 to the 303 power for those that cant think that high, and dont pull the richard reid comment cause it wont fly as TSA didnt catch it,but yet over reacted like a child that got spanked) that TSA cries the sky is falling and makes changes to its MO that arent likely to happen ever again. On top of that trade that for dirty floors and CP that open travelers (Especially diabetics and those with compromised immune systems) up to picking up infections due to poor sanitary procedures and up keep to go along with the power tripping rude staff in cop wannabe smurf suits (sorry shoe fits, and you really dont want to hear the comments i have heard from real LE about TSA, they would make a sailor turn red)

yet more TSA myths and BS blown out of the water by common sense and reality.
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Old Jul 3, 09, 1:04 pm   #22
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i never take my wallet out. it lives in the inside snap pocket of my leather jacket. my watch and my cell go in there as well before i go thru the wtmd and my belt with a brass buckle in the shape of a lion never comes off in the u.s* as brass doesn't alarm.

*at foreign airports, i ask and don't argue if they say it must come off
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Old Jul 3, 09, 1:15 pm   #23
 
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I think you will find that your shoes have a metal support strip in the sole, and that is more than enough to set the WTMD off. Most shoes do, with the exception of what some call tennis shoes.
Neither Bass penny loafers nor Nunn Bush penny loafers set off any WTMDs back before TSA implemented its asinine policy that all shoes must go through the X-ray.

I never voluntarily remove my wallet when I transit the WTMD. A couple of times, fanatic TSA screeners pawed through it back when I routinely was harassed with SSSS status, but that was over 5 years ago.
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Old Jul 3, 09, 1:19 pm   #24
 
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Neither Bass penny loafers nor Nunn Bush penny loafers set off any WTMDs back before TSA implemented its asinine policy that all shoes must go through the X-ray.
Silly me, I bought shoes (Allen-Edmonds) specifically because they did NOT have the TSORon metal strip, and therefore did not set off the WTMD. No problem, until TSA decided to universalize the shoe carnival.
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Old Jul 3, 09, 1:40 pm   #25
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I think you will find that your shoes have a metal support strip in the sole, and that is more than enough to set the WTMD off. Most shoes do, with the exception of what some call tennis shoes.
it's not the metal (or lack of as is the case with my orthopedic shoes [hard plastic supports]) but it goes back to richard reid the evil shoe bomber and being able to see if any items are hidden in the shoes or the "souls" of the shoes. that's it "plane" and simple
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Old Jul 3, 09, 1:54 pm   #26
 
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I stuff my wallet deep inside my carryon prior to arrival at the checkpoint, with my bp and drivers license in my shirt pocket. My usual carryon has an inside key clip, so I put my keys there; coins go in my zip-able coat pocket in cool weather, or in the coin compartment of my wallet otherwise. I never take off my belt, and have never, ever had my it register, nor has a security person ever mentioned it. I don't usually wear a watch (using my mobile to check the time), but have gone through with one on and nothing triggered, nor did I beep the time I realized I'd forgotten to take the few coins from my pocket.
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Old Jul 3, 09, 6:15 pm   #27
 
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I never take my wallet out of my pocket and have never had a problem with it. My insulin pump appears to have set off the metal detector the last couple of times I've flown and it's not supposed to. At least that seems to be what's setting it off.

At PUJ I think it was almost impossible to set off the metal detector. A woman in a wheelchair set it off. I was in such a hurry to catch a flight that I only removed my watch and left several other things that set off the detector in the US, and I made it through ok. I thought it was funny that most people threw their water bottles away before the checkpoint. The Dominicans don't follow the same rules as in the US because my wife and I carried sodas through just fine.
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Old Jul 4, 09, 12:49 am   #28
 
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it's not the metal (or lack of as is the case with my orthopedic shoes [hard plastic supports]) but it goes back to richard reid the evil shoe bomber and being able to see if any items are hidden in the shoes or the "souls" of the shoes. that's it "plane" and simple
My ortho shoes have never alarmed either, I always ask whether I alarmed so I can then ask the secondary guy to verify the "no alarm" with the WTMD attendant in the event he wants to do more than a shoe shine.
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Old Jul 4, 09, 6:42 am   #29
 
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I think you will find that your shoes have a metal support strip in the sole, and that is more than enough to set the WTMD off. Most shoes do, with the exception of what some call tennis shoes.
I think you will find that the floor/bottom region of a WTMD (ie foot/ankle area) is the most unreliable area for consistent alarms for metal objects. This is because of interactions between the bottom-most detectors and the floor or subfloor, and the lack of detection panels along the bottom perimeter.
Of course, I'm not a security proffesionnel like yourself, so please, go on kidding yourself about the capabilities of your little circus.
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