...If so I will add them to the list I am compiling. thanks.
US Pilot certificate (license) also indicates nationality. When I first got mine, I wrote USA on the form and no one checked. Nowadays the FAA wants to see a passport or something.
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US Pilot certificate (license) also indicates nationality. When I first got mine, I wrote USA on the form and no one checked. Nowadays the FAA wants to see a passport or something.
True, mine does as well (I guess all the newer plastic wright bros ones do, and I had to use a passport to get it) but there is no picture. In Texas you can use a birth certificate with voter registration card if you don't have a picture ID for most state business. I wonder if CBP would accept just the pilots license or voter registration card with no photo ID. Voter reg and Pilot license both have addresses on them so I'd prefer to never use them. I am a big fan of the passport card due to its portability. Now the troubling issue is the agent the OP noted saying one must carry proof of citizenship...
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From the OP's account, it meets the "walks like a duck" definition of racial profiling.
For CBP that would be walks like a "Messican"...
The funny thing is if you go and watch some of the CBP videos online (like the AZ pastor ones on youtube) plenty of the Hispanic BP officers speak with what many of these agents might consider "funny accents"...
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It's ironic that with such vigilant exuberance they exhibit, millions of illegals have been able to evade their dragnet. I recall many years ago I was in Los Angeles, and I stopped in one of the small boutique malls. At the time I noticed one of Selena's CDs and I mentioned to the clerk how well she sings. The clerk, a young lady, went on to tell me she goes and comes across the border through Arizona. I was surprised she told me this, just meeting me for the first time. I asked her if she is not afraid she gets caught; she smiled and said "no. I'm careful." I wished her safe passage in her future treks. So much for the dragnet that seems to serve more so to infringe on the civil rights of U.S. citizens of Hispanic descent.
True, mine does as well (I guess all the newer plastic wright bros ones do, and I had to use a passport to get it) but there is no picture.
The old paper ones had citizenship too (even this temporary certificate). Recently the FARs have been changed to require you to carry photo ID matching the pilot license and present it to anyone who's allowed to ask for the pilot license.
IMHO, if I get pulled over in a car in the US, I need a DL. As for citizenship, the burden of proof is not on me.
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The old paper ones had citizenship too (even this temporary certificate). Recently the FARs have been changed to require you to carry photo ID matching the pilot license and present it to anyone who's allowed to ask for the pilot license.
IMHO, if I get pulled over in a car in the US, I need a DL. As for citizenship, the burden of proof is not on me.
My old paperone didn't but it was via the military. I didn't get the FAA plastic kind until 2002 or 3.
I agree about the burden of proof. However, I am just curious as to what the CBP deems "proof" of citizenship.
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If you look white, and have no accent, I am positive they will wave you through. But if you are bit..."different", it would be wise to carry a passport or something.
The BP must've thought I was a naturalized citizen or something and telling me to carry my green card maybe?
Whatever the case may be, I'd stay away from the checkpoint much as possible.
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In summer 2004 I was driving North on IH-35 from Laredo to San Antonio with 3 Italian Nationals. I stopped at the permanent checkpoint just north of Laredo. When I get up to the "agent" he asked "is everyone a US Citizen?" and I said "I am, these three are Italian citizens" at which point he just waived me on and said "have a good day". Never checked docs or anything so one never knows what they might want to do.
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For CBP that would be walks like a "Messican"...
The funny thing is if you go and watch some of the CBP videos online (like the AZ pastor ones on youtube) plenty of the Hispanic BP officers speak with what many of these agents might consider "funny accents"...
Trucker friend of mine from Philly, huge wise ..., was bringing a load out of Laredo and while going thru the checkpoint on I-35, an agent with an "funny accent" asked him if he was an American citizen and my friend said he replied "Shouldn't I be asking you that?" They kept him there for 2 hours.
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Given the past tense, I'll give you the benifit of the doubt - I think La Migra got much worse since it became part of DHS.
Other than that, it would be interesting to ask you to prove your point, just like I have to prove my citizenship at the checkpoints.
Furthermore, I am talking about the organization, not each agent individually. My point is that La Migra superiors do not do anything to stop the thuggish behavior and they might even be encouraging it.
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It's ironic that with such vigilant exuberance they exhibit, millions of illegals have been able to evade their dragnet. I recall many years ago I was in Los Angeles, and I stopped in one of the small boutique malls. At the time I noticed one of Selena's CDs and I mentioned to the clerk how well she sings. The clerk, a young lady, went on to tell me she goes and comes across the border through Arizona. I was surprised she told me this, just meeting me for the first time. I asked her if she is not afraid she gets caught; she smiled and said "no. I'm careful." I wished her safe passage in her future treks. So much for the dragnet that seems to serve more so to infringe on the civil rights of U.S. citizens of Hispanic descent.
Almost all illegal aliens have been caught multiple times. It's just there's nowhere to house the 750,000-1.5 million people the USBP catches most years. So OTMs (Other Than Mexicans) are generally housed and formally deported to their home country (they can't be sent back to Mexico as they're not Mexican), whereas Mexicans are simply VR'd (Voluntary Return) back to Mexico where they try to come back immediately. I've caught the same group four or five times in the same day before. You catch them, send them back, catch them, send them back, etc. until one day you don't see them anymore. You think they just gave up and went home? No, they just finally slipped through.
The dragnet works, just the followup sucks. We can't house them and sending them back just doesn't work. Personally I just looked at the process as a filter - you catch them and are looking for the real hardcore criminals (rapists, murderers, etc.). Those you certainly don't want in. So those you weed out and send to prison or set up for formal deportation.
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Given the past tense, I'll give you the benifit of the doubt - I think La Migra got much worse since it became part of DHS.
Other than that, it would be interesting to ask you to prove your point, just like I have to prove my citizenship at the checkpoints.
Furthermore, I am talking about the organization, not each agent individually. My point is that La Migra superiors do not do anything to stop the thuggish behavior and they might even be encouraging it.
You said the entire organization is a "bunch of thugs." That would imply that the individuals in it are all thugs. Some are, no doubt. Most aren't.
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