Pat down question
#1
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Pat down question
If you opt for the pat down/cavity search/double penetration, where does it usually happen? Where is your luggage/wallet/jacket/shoes while this occurs? Sitting on the security conveyor belt for anyone to take? Or do you first get your stuff and then get the pat down?
Thanks.
Thanks.
#2
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My experience in several airports is
1. the TSO will ask if you want a private screening (I'm female; I don't know if this is different for a male.)
2. The TSO will ask which are your belongings and the TSO will pick them up and carry them to the screening area. Sometimes my belongings have been swabbed.
1. the TSO will ask if you want a private screening (I'm female; I don't know if this is different for a male.)
2. The TSO will ask which are your belongings and the TSO will pick them up and carry them to the screening area. Sometimes my belongings have been swabbed.
#3
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During my one and only opt-out, the clerk had me put my wallet in the bin, and did not touch it. I always keep my wallet in my back pocket, unless I definitely have to opt-out.. If they wanted to search my wallet, I would remove all cash/credit cards/etc, and then let them x-ray it..
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#6
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The hotter and cuter the woman, the longer it goes. I wouldn't be surprised to discover that male screeners are paying female screeners to "get it on" a little longer with the cuter ones. That's just how that culture is; low brow and basal rule the day.
#7
Join Date: Feb 2011
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You are probably right, but i still have no idea how long it could take to rub someone's crotch ( 30 seconds, 1 minute or more).
#8
Join Date: Feb 2010
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If one asks the screener to clarify what is meant by the term "resistance", as there is no piece of human anatomy called resistance, it will be assumed that the terrorist, err traveler, is difficult and must be put in his place. It is then necessary to vigorously rub and push the genitalia around in an overzealous attempt to find that elusive "resistance."
Of course, if you meekly submit and are compliant, then there is no guarantee that the screener will not be obsessed with rubbing your genitals.
Or you can go through the NoS, at which point there is no guarantee your genitals won't be rubbed.
Of course, it is said by some TSA employees that they do not touch genitals. As justification they say that they are only accessing resistance through clothing. They are welcome to parse words. Touching genitals is touching genitals whether clothing and gloves are involved or not.
#9
Join Date: Dec 2004
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My experience in several airports is
1. the TSO will ask if you want a private screening (I'm female; I don't know if this is different for a male.)
2. The TSO will ask which are your belongings and the TSO will pick them up and carry them to the screening area. Sometimes my belongings have been swabbed.
1. the TSO will ask if you want a private screening (I'm female; I don't know if this is different for a male.)
2. The TSO will ask which are your belongings and the TSO will pick them up and carry them to the screening area. Sometimes my belongings have been swabbed.
#10
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My experience in several airports is
1. the TSO will ask if you want a private screening (I'm female; I don't know if this is different for a male.)
2. The TSO will ask which are your belongings and the TSO will pick them up and carry them to the screening area. Sometimes my belongings have been swabbed.
1. the TSO will ask if you want a private screening (I'm female; I don't know if this is different for a male.)
2. The TSO will ask which are your belongings and the TSO will pick them up and carry them to the screening area. Sometimes my belongings have been swabbed.
#11
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 22
If one asserts themselves and refuses to be "compliant", they are immediately assumed to be a terrorist and must be hiding something, most certainly in the crotch. The screener, therefore, will gleefully rub, prod, probe, poke, and spend an excessive and prolonged amount of time on your genitalia. True story.
If one asks the screener to clarify what is meant by the term "resistance", as there is no piece of human anatomy called resistance, it will be assumed that the terrorist, err traveler, is difficult and must be put in his place. It is then necessary to vigorously rub and push the genitalia around in an overzealous attempt to find that elusive "resistance."
Of course, if you meekly submit and are compliant, then there is no guarantee that the screener will not be obsessed with rubbing your genitals.
Or you can go through the NoS, at which point there is no guarantee your genitals won't be rubbed.
Of course, it is said by some TSA employees that they do not touch genitals. As justification they say that they are only accessing resistance through clothing. They are welcome to parse words. Touching genitals is touching genitals whether clothing and gloves are involved or not.
If one asks the screener to clarify what is meant by the term "resistance", as there is no piece of human anatomy called resistance, it will be assumed that the terrorist, err traveler, is difficult and must be put in his place. It is then necessary to vigorously rub and push the genitalia around in an overzealous attempt to find that elusive "resistance."
Of course, if you meekly submit and are compliant, then there is no guarantee that the screener will not be obsessed with rubbing your genitals.
Or you can go through the NoS, at which point there is no guarantee your genitals won't be rubbed.
Of course, it is said by some TSA employees that they do not touch genitals. As justification they say that they are only accessing resistance through clothing. They are welcome to parse words. Touching genitals is touching genitals whether clothing and gloves are involved or not.