MSY-MSP

Ok, TSA now has a new approach to get you to use the NoS. This morning (about 20 minutes ago), I was going through the security here in Seattle, and one of the Barkers was saying the following not verbatum, but fairly close.

"We are using WBI here. It is perfectly safe and you have nothing to fear. You have the option to opt out of this type of screening. However, please be aware that you will be subjected to an intense pat down. Also please be aware that you will be waiting for a significant period of time to clear security if you choose to opt out. You may be waiting for a half an hour or more before we get to you. Therefore, I highly recommend that you use the WBI."

There was a line of folks who opted out waiting to be screened. And sure enough they were processing the WBI folks and not processing the opt outs. My line was next to the operationa NoS and therefore, i didn't have to go through the NoS or opt out option. However, in the 10 minutes i was in line I did not see a single person whatsoever in the opt out line get processed. while i saw about 10-20 people from the NoS line go through.

I think this may be TSA's new way to get us to use the NoS

LessO2

The wait in line comes over as a passive way of saying "do you want to fly today?"

fs2k2isfun

If I were left standing in the box for more than 5 minutes without anyone being screened, I would call the airport police and report I was being unlawfully detained.

IrishDoesntFlyNow

Or a passive way of saying "bad, BAD pax!"

janetdoe

Oooh, would that work? @:-) If TSA is employing a 'delay' strategy for opt-outs, this may need to be addressed on the Opt-out day website.

Can you bring a lawsuit against a federal employee if they lie by asserting that the machines are perfectly safe when there is scientific proof to the contrary? I will grant that millimeter wave is 'perfectly safe' according to scientific consensus, but there is a documented incremental cancer risk from receiving backscatter x-rays, especially for cancer survivors, elderly, children, and fetuses.

fs2k2isfun

I'm not flying out of SEA, but if it happens next time I fly, I will not hesitate to call police.

baliktad

Thank you very much for this insight. I will actually be flying out of SEA in just a few hours. Unfortunately I'll have to add extra time to my schedule to account for this TSA nonsense.

BearX220

I have a 615am departure from SEA Tuesday morning. I'm guessing I should arrive at the airport by 400am to make time for this psychotic madness? Which means just staying up all night, I guess.

essxjay

'New' is relative. Regulars to this forum have been reporting this tactic for weeks now.

doober

Correct.

Cactus12

Check out the sticky thread up top about which airports have the machine. It says that the C gate checkpoint at SEA does not have the NoS. I will be flying out of there in a couple of weeks so I hope it's still true.

BubbaLoop

This may be a blessing in disguise. People are already weary of the TSA. Annoying them further brings more people to our side.

IslandBased

And now there are reports that TSOs are actively selecting cute women to go through the NOS.

sbagdon

Now this is getting interesting. The pax to pay will be those that either fail the WTMD and need a grope, or those that fail the ATI and need a grope.

If the secondaries are handled before the opt-outs, this is going to get real interesting.

MSY-MSP

They all have them now. C-D checkpoint now has them as well. Totally rearranged as of about a week ago.

That is exactly how it was getting done and what I observerd. NoS folks were getting their secondaries first. It is a passive agressive way to get folks to take the NoS.


Side note-- transiting IAH and all the machines were off.