Fox News: Could airlines soon be required to let families fly together?
Jul 18, 2016, 1:05 am
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Adjacent means within one row, or across one aisle, the way it's defined elsewhere anyway. That won't be enough for many of those commenting on here.
Jul 18, 2016, 1:12 am
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And some airlines don't open all seats for reservation until a few hours prior to departure in order to catch exactly these issues. If an airline wants to sort this out, there is a way of doing this. Now they have to, and this is good ^.
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Jul 18, 2016, 1:19 am
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For what it's worth, if you're traveling for a time-sensitive emergency -- illness, funeral, etc. -- I'll always accommodate you. Any other reason? Not my problem; talk to the airline, plan ahead, drive, take the train, or just don't go if you think you have a superior right to my seat.
Honestly, I just don't buy that you never missed a flight because you got stuck in security - even if you had more than enough time for that - or that you never missed any connecting flight because the in-coming flight was late.
Jul 18, 2016, 3:29 am
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Nice to see the airlines being forced into doing something which should be common sense.
As to the poster who said he would expect the unruly 6 year old to be dealt with by the FA, I think that kind of action would rebound on you rather than the kid. You were given the option of moving, you chose not to, these are the consequences.
As to the poster who said he would expect the unruly 6 year old to be dealt with by the FA, I think that kind of action would rebound on you rather than the kid. You were given the option of moving, you chose not to, these are the consequences.
Jul 18, 2016, 3:54 am
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What about TSA related misses, delay related re-bookings, ...? That list is about endless as there are more than enough reasons why this was not possible in the very first place even when there was the will to do so.
Honestly, I just don't buy that you never missed a flight because you got stuck in security - even if you had more than enough time for that - or that you never missed any connecting flight because the in-coming flight was late.
Honestly, I just don't buy that you never missed a flight because you got stuck in security - even if you had more than enough time for that - or that you never missed any connecting flight because the in-coming flight was late.
Jul 19, 2016, 12:55 am
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Jul 19, 2016, 4:38 am
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i am sure most parents are cognizant of the seating arrangements they need to make but, as with all walks of life, there are some idiots out there who have the entitlement mentality. Unfortunately, they end up getting us all tarred with the same brush.
Jul 19, 2016, 5:12 pm
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Honestly, I just don't buy that you never missed a flight because you got stuck in security - even if you had more than enough time for that - or that you never missed any connecting flight because the in-coming flight was late.
I don't understand why people don't get this. You have no right to impose on me just because you have a problem. You can certainly ask, and if I think your problem is compelling, I'll gladly help you out. However, when you're asking me a favor, I get to decide whether or not your reason for asking is compelling enough to justify my granting your request. As I said, I consider flying because of a funeral or a need for medical treatment to be a compelling reason; you can have my seat as well as any other assistance I can give you. Whatever other reasons you may have for flying -- visiting relatives, going on vacation, whatever -- I don't find compelling. Either go with the flow, wait for your kids to be old enough to fly unsupervised, pay extra for seats together, or just don't go.
Jul 19, 2016, 5:15 pm
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Nice to see the airlines being forced into doing something which should be common sense.
As to the poster who said he would expect the unruly 6 year old to be dealt with by the FA, I think that kind of action would rebound on you rather than the kid. You were given the option of moving, you chose not to, these are the consequences.
As to the poster who said he would expect the unruly 6 year old to be dealt with by the FA, I think that kind of action would rebound on you rather than the kid. You were given the option of moving, you chose not to, these are the consequences.
FWIW, I've encountered parents who tried to play the, "then you look after them," card a couple of times. Each time required FA intervention, and each time it was the parent and child who were moved, not me.
Jul 19, 2016, 5:17 pm
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I agree with you completely. The overwhelming majority of parents that I see flying are responsible and considerate and should be welcomed on board by everyone. It's the small minority of entitlement demanders who ruin it for everybody.
Jul 20, 2016, 11:39 am
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Well it's not a choice anymore.
From The Hill:
Article about add-ons to the TSA extra funding bill...
"Airlines now have to ensure that children 13 years old or younger are seated adjacent to an adult or older child traveling with them, at no additional cost."
“Fortunately, that usually happens, because of the goodness of the passengers,” said Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), ranking member on the Transportation Committee. “But have you run into passengers from time-to-time who say, ‘No, I’m not going to move my seat’? That’s going to be law now.”
From The Hill:
Article about add-ons to the TSA extra funding bill...
"Airlines now have to ensure that children 13 years old or younger are seated adjacent to an adult or older child traveling with them, at no additional cost."
“Fortunately, that usually happens, because of the goodness of the passengers,” said Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), ranking member on the Transportation Committee. “But have you run into passengers from time-to-time who say, ‘No, I’m not going to move my seat’? That’s going to be law now.”
Jul 21, 2016, 12:11 pm
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Long past time for this. The current situation, where airlines basically force a bunch of uncomfortable interactions between strangers to deal with what should be an open and shut issue of a parent and a kid sitting together is pretty bad. Far better to put it back on the airline and have them deal directly with any affected passengers who might need to be moved to accommodate the family.
Jul 21, 2016, 12:29 pm
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Long past time for this. The current situation, where airlines basically force a bunch of uncomfortable interactions between strangers to deal with what should be an open and shut issue of a parent and a kid sitting together is pretty bad. Far better to put it back on the airline and have them deal directly with any affected passengers who might need to be moved to accommodate the family.
Jul 22, 2016, 7:35 am
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