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Old Feb 13, 2016, 8:04 pm
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It's "ad hominem", as correctly spelled in the original post. And Google is a great tool for learning things.

(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
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Old Feb 15, 2016, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by CPRich
It's "ad hominem", as correctly spelled in the original post. And Google is a great tool for learning things.



"I don't like President Obama's failure to keep his promise to close Gitmo."
"Oh yeah? Well, you're stupid"
Thank you so much for the Google hint. I had never heard of that expression before you helped me .

My point (seemingly lost on you) was that the poster could have used the simple word "personal," instead of ad hominem. Was this to impress the readership or show the advanced education of the poster? Either way, I'm not impressed although I read the post.
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Old Feb 16, 2016, 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by Beven12S
Thank you so much for the Google hint. I had never heard of that expression before you helped me .

My point (seemingly lost on you) was that the poster could have used the simple word "personal," instead of ad hominem. Was this to impress the readership or show the advanced education of the poster? Either way, I'm not impressed although I read the post.
Personal opinion: The word personal has many meanings, including the one it has at the start of this post. Ad hominem is specific to verbal attacks on another. In my experience, ad hominem is not a rare phrase. Since it is more specific to what the poster meant to say, it's a better choice. I don't think using it is showing off, and I think most reasonably educated* native speakers of English would understand it.

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Old Feb 16, 2016, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Efrem
Personal opinion: The word personal has many meanings, including the one it has at the start of this post. Ad hominem is specific to verbal attacks on another. In my experience, ad hominem is not a rare phrase. Since it is more specific to what the poster meant to say, it's a better choice. I don't think using it is showing off, and I think most reasonably educated* native speakers of English would understand it.

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Fair enough. My opinion is that a minority of HS graduates know what Ad hominem means.
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Old Feb 17, 2016, 7:39 am
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Fair enough. My opinion is that a minority of HS graduates know what Ad hominem means.
I would agree, since a minority of U.S. HS graduates receive what I'd call a "solid secondary school education." (I base that opinion on what I see as a college professor.)

And now back to whether or not Travel News should continue to exist as a forum. For what it's worth, I think it should.
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