Largest Airline in the World?
Jun 19, 2012, 6:24 pm
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Largest Airline in the World?
In the days of the USSR, it was Aeroflot, today it's...
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Jun 19, 2012, 6:57 pm
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What is the metric? The number of passengers flown? Total route length? The number of flights? The mumber of miles flown? ASM? RASM! The number of aircraft? Total revenue?
Originally Posted by Sabai
In the days of the USSR, it was Aeroflot, today it's...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/breakingv...ent_time_.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/breakingv...ent_time_.html
Jun 19, 2012, 8:32 pm
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I understood it was by market cap. Nothing really to do with passengers carried, or fleet size or anything travel related. But I guess a valuable metric to compare with all companies
Jun 19, 2012, 8:59 pm
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Jun 19, 2012, 9:26 pm
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Fleeting yes but universal is all I was saying. Given the strength of some South American economies the notion that it is "the biggest" is probably meaningless compared to any purposeful metric. "Biggest" though is definitely something I have already seen bandied around for the new LATAM
Jun 20, 2012, 8:54 am
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Airline fleets are in a state of constant flux as new planes are delivered and old ones retired. The top 5 are consistent although DL/UA may swap the lead from time to time for the above reason.
1. Delta 744 plus 121 on order
2. United 712 plus 116
3. Southwest 709 plus 403
4. American 624 plus 571
5. British 487 +134
Some lists place Lufthansa (710+155) and Air France (616+80) higher but these are group totals which include what I consider to be separate airlines; Swiss and Austrian and KLM respectively.
Jun 20, 2012, 9:39 am
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Fleeting yes but universal is all I was saying. Given the strength of some South American economies the notion that it is "the biggest" is probably meaningless compared to any purposeful metric. "Biggest" though is definitely something I have already seen bandied around for the new LATAM
Jun 21, 2012, 9:49 am
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One way to measure market cap is to discount future cashflows. As long as you're making the most money, you're the largest.
However, being profitable doesn't make you the largest. You can have lower revenue but a higher margin to win. That's why I think this is baloney.
Other metrics are much better like fleet size, number of passengers flown or destinations served.
However, being profitable doesn't make you the largest. You can have lower revenue but a higher margin to win. That's why I think this is baloney.
Other metrics are much better like fleet size, number of passengers flown or destinations served.
Jun 21, 2012, 3:39 pm
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How far im future would you go? Short of a major lawsuit, outflows are limited. Market capitalisation is very volatile.
Originally Posted by yialanliu
One way to measure market cap is to discount future cashflows. As long as you're making the most money, you're the largest.
However, being profitable doesn't make you the largest. You can have lower revenue but a higher margin to win. That's why I think this is baloney.
Other metrics are much better like fleet size, number of passengers flown or destinations served.
However, being profitable doesn't make you the largest. You can have lower revenue but a higher margin to win. That's why I think this is baloney.
Other metrics are much better like fleet size, number of passengers flown or destinations served.
Jun 23, 2012, 2:19 pm
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Stock price has little value now. Look at what happened to face book IPO. Market cap has been hyped up by short term investors. Many metrics are in use that mislead people. Facebook used a metric to exaggerate footfall on it's site. Anyone who visited a site that was linked to, was counted as a hit by face book. If stock price reflected real strength of a company, market cap would be more reliable metric. Rising stock price is no guarantee of company growth.
Jun 23, 2012, 5:57 pm
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The latest figures (Sept 2011) I can find have Delta as #1.
Airline fleets are in a state of constant flux as new planes are delivered and old ones retired. The top 5 are consistent although DL/UA may swap the lead from time to time for the above reason.
1. Delta 744 plus 121 on order
2. United 712 plus 116
3. Southwest 709 plus 403
4. American 624 plus 571
5. British 487 +134
Some lists place Lufthansa (710+155) and Air France (616+80) higher but these are group totals which include what I consider to be separate airlines; Swiss and Austrian and KLM respectively.
Airline fleets are in a state of constant flux as new planes are delivered and old ones retired. The top 5 are consistent although DL/UA may swap the lead from time to time for the above reason.
1. Delta 744 plus 121 on order
2. United 712 plus 116
3. Southwest 709 plus 403
4. American 624 plus 571
5. British 487 +134
Some lists place Lufthansa (710+155) and Air France (616+80) higher but these are group totals which include what I consider to be separate airlines; Swiss and Austrian and KLM respectively.