Traffic: This is going to be fun to watch
Nov 25, 2015, 10:06 pm
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Traffic: This is going to be fun to watch
The metropolitan police chief has been ordered to reduce traffic congestion in Bangkok by 40-50% by February.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politics/777317
Yeah, like that's going to happen.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politics/777317
Yeah, like that's going to happen.
Nov 25, 2015, 11:20 pm
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The metropolitan police chief has been ordered to reduce traffic congestion in Bangkok by 40-50% by February.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politics/777317
Yeah, like that's going to happen.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politics/777317
Yeah, like that's going to happen.
Nov 25, 2015, 11:24 pm
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Acting Metropolitan Police chief Sanit Mahathavorn
The key word being "Acting", one assumes this is just a way to remove Sanit.
FWIW, there is a massive struggle on-going between factions within the RTP, and the RTA. Old grudges are being settled, and new ones fomented. Definitely not a good time with so many potential conflicts.
The key word being "Acting", one assumes this is just a way to remove Sanit.
FWIW, there is a massive struggle on-going between factions within the RTP, and the RTA. Old grudges are being settled, and new ones fomented. Definitely not a good time with so many potential conflicts.
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Nov 29, 2015, 4:53 am
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Got here a day or two after the article was posted, but have to agree:
Traffic: This is going to be fun to watch
There is really nothing that could be done in three YEARS, and then only if .....
How does that saying go? Chances are slim and none, and Slim just left town.
Traffic: This is going to be fun to watch
There is really nothing that could be done in three YEARS, and then only if .....
How does that saying go? Chances are slim and none, and Slim just left town.
Nov 29, 2015, 4:54 pm
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Got here a day or two after the article was posted
There have been/will be quite a few practice sessions for the "Bike for Dad" event (Dec. 11, may be declared a holiday) so that has been messing things up quite a bit with road closures, people on public tranpo. with bikes, practice viewers, etc.
Next week Dec 7, 10 and (possibly) 11 are holidays so traffic should be down (except for 11th) but public transpo. is swamped already as we enter high season, so expect challenges there.
There have been/will be quite a few practice sessions for the "Bike for Dad" event (Dec. 11, may be declared a holiday) so that has been messing things up quite a bit with road closures, people on public tranpo. with bikes, practice viewers, etc.
Next week Dec 7, 10 and (possibly) 11 are holidays so traffic should be down (except for 11th) but public transpo. is swamped already as we enter high season, so expect challenges there.
Nov 29, 2015, 5:44 pm
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They've had the answer for years but refuse to implement it.
A civil engineer, which I am not, could explain to you that traffic flows in a predictable wave pattern. This reality is what's used to keep other major cities from encountering gridlock.
The answer to the problem was presented to the Metropolitan governor years ago: get rid of all the policemen sitting in booths manually switching their own intersection's lights and put in a city-wide automated system which is calibrated for the ebb-and-flow of Bangkok's traffic. Will that cure everything, of course not, but it would make things flow a lot more smoothly.
So the hurdles to simply implement the solution are two-fold: 1) what to do with the hundreds (thousands?) of obsolete button pushers? and 2) how to replace the revenue streams from all the folks that pay to have their route turn green for them when they call ahead?
This is a hidden fact of Bangkok life: people pay to keep their intersections moving. Ever wonder why a light is 2 minutes one day and 7 minutes the next at the exact same time of day? This wreaks havoc on all the other sois and thanons into feed into that intersection and the waves of traffic that begin spiralling outward behind them...
The answer to the problem was presented to the Metropolitan governor years ago: get rid of all the policemen sitting in booths manually switching their own intersection's lights and put in a city-wide automated system which is calibrated for the ebb-and-flow of Bangkok's traffic. Will that cure everything, of course not, but it would make things flow a lot more smoothly.
So the hurdles to simply implement the solution are two-fold: 1) what to do with the hundreds (thousands?) of obsolete button pushers? and 2) how to replace the revenue streams from all the folks that pay to have their route turn green for them when they call ahead?
This is a hidden fact of Bangkok life: people pay to keep their intersections moving. Ever wonder why a light is 2 minutes one day and 7 minutes the next at the exact same time of day? This wreaks havoc on all the other sois and thanons into feed into that intersection and the waves of traffic that begin spiralling outward behind them...
Nov 29, 2015, 6:21 pm
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The answer to the problem was presented to the Metropolitan governor years ago
Meh. Many, many contributing factors. The light management is but one minor factor. And without the thousands of police to manually direct traffic, Thai drivers would hopelessly gridlock themselves for days. I can't even begin to describe how hopeless they are as drivers.
The current Bangkok Governor is a right twit.
Too many cars, no restrictions (inner city fees), illegally parked vehicles, not enough public transpo., poorly designed roadways/intersections, surface trains, VIP convoys, weather, road conditions and a gazillion other factors contribute to the traffic woes.
Meh. Many, many contributing factors. The light management is but one minor factor. And without the thousands of police to manually direct traffic, Thai drivers would hopelessly gridlock themselves for days. I can't even begin to describe how hopeless they are as drivers.
The current Bangkok Governor is a right twit.
Too many cars, no restrictions (inner city fees), illegally parked vehicles, not enough public transpo., poorly designed roadways/intersections, surface trains, VIP convoys, weather, road conditions and a gazillion other factors contribute to the traffic woes.
Nov 29, 2015, 8:07 pm
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Got here a day or two after the article was posted
There have been/will be quite a few practice sessions for the "Bike for Dad" event (Dec. 11, may be declared a holiday) so that has been messing things up quite a bit with road closures, people on public tranpo. with bikes, practice viewers, etc.
Next week Dec 7, 10 and (possibly) 11 are holidays so traffic should be down (except for 11th) but public transpo. is swamped already as we enter high season, so expect challenges there.
There have been/will be quite a few practice sessions for the "Bike for Dad" event (Dec. 11, may be declared a holiday) so that has been messing things up quite a bit with road closures, people on public tranpo. with bikes, practice viewers, etc.
Next week Dec 7, 10 and (possibly) 11 are holidays so traffic should be down (except for 11th) but public transpo. is swamped already as we enter high season, so expect challenges there.
This is a hidden fact of Bangkok life: people pay to keep their intersections moving. Ever wonder why a light is 2 minutes one day and 7 minutes the next at the exact same time of day? This wreaks havoc on all the other sois and thanons into feed into that intersection and the waves of traffic that begin spiralling outward behind them...
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Nov 29, 2015, 10:30 pm
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I noticed all the cars illegally parked on my soi were booted today.
Police to launch 5 measures to ease traffic in Bangkok in 3 months
The Metropolitan Police Bureau has meted out five measures to ease traffic gridlock by 60 percent in Bangkok in three months’ time. The measures include: strict enforcement of traffic laws focusing on illegal parking with illegally-parked cars to be towed away and the motorists heavily fined; no double-parking by buses at bus stops, initially at 46 problematic bus stops; traffic rearrangement at 11 Bangkok-bound routes in four corners of the city.
Traffic police will be stationed at entrances and exits of expressways to coordinate with expressway officials to endure there is no gridlock and to arrest offenders who cause traffic problem.
There are about 300,000-400,000 new cars in Bangkok but there is no new road, said the officer.
http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pol...ok-in-3-months
Police to launch 5 measures to ease traffic in Bangkok in 3 months
The Metropolitan Police Bureau has meted out five measures to ease traffic gridlock by 60 percent in Bangkok in three months’ time. The measures include: strict enforcement of traffic laws focusing on illegal parking with illegally-parked cars to be towed away and the motorists heavily fined; no double-parking by buses at bus stops, initially at 46 problematic bus stops; traffic rearrangement at 11 Bangkok-bound routes in four corners of the city.
Traffic police will be stationed at entrances and exits of expressways to coordinate with expressway officials to endure there is no gridlock and to arrest offenders who cause traffic problem.
There are about 300,000-400,000 new cars in Bangkok but there is no new road, said the officer.
http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pol...ok-in-3-months
Nov 29, 2015, 10:38 pm
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I noticed all the cars illegally parked on my soi were booted today.
Police to launch 5 measures to ease traffic in Bangkok in 3 months
The Metropolitan Police Bureau has meted out five measures to ease traffic
gridlock by 60 percent in Bangkok in three months’ time. The measures include: strict enforcement of traffic laws focusing on illegal parking with illegally-parked cars to be towed away and the motorists heavily fined; no double-parking by buses at bus stops, initially at 46 problematic bus stops; traffic rearrangement at 11 Bangkok-bound routes in four corners of the city.
Police to launch 5 measures to ease traffic in Bangkok in 3 months
The Metropolitan Police Bureau has meted out five measures to ease traffic
gridlock by 60 percent in Bangkok in three months’ time. The measures include: strict enforcement of traffic laws focusing on illegal parking with illegally-parked cars to be towed away and the motorists heavily fined; no double-parking by buses at bus stops, initially at 46 problematic bus stops; traffic rearrangement at 11 Bangkok-bound routes in four corners of the city.
The cops would probably get enough money from the fines to pay the salaries of the cops at the intersections.
Nov 30, 2015, 5:32 pm
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Don't know if it's related to the demand for decreased traffic congestion, but I sat near JJ yesterday evening while a traffic cop waves various cars through the process of merging into traffic. I only had to sit there for 5 minutes as opposed to the usual smooth entry onto the expressway. .... arrggh!