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Old Jul 13, 2016, 8:55 am
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GUP: Which fare bucket(s) determine Y to C GUP availability?

Hi there,

I'm looking to use one of my available GUP upgrades. The availability for one of the flights in question is:
F1 A1 P1 C7 D5 J1 Z0 Y3 B2 M0 H0 Q0 T0 K0 S0 V0 W0

So while eco looks sold out, C-Class has some availability (albeit at the higher end). While award class Z is out. Do GUPs only go through if there is availability in Z?

Cheers,
dinbangkok
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Old Jul 13, 2016, 9:01 am
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In answer to my own question...

I asked Thai and learned that if there's availability in J, then you're in with a chance of GUP.
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Old Jul 14, 2016, 2:19 am
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forget about Z
J is good for GUP while I is needed for Upgrade by miles
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Old Jul 17, 2016, 11:50 pm
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TG offices only sells F A P O C D J I Y B M H Q G V W X, the rest I don't know where does that comes from. The availability of GUP is depending on J-Class fare (and P-Class in First)

During this new year, TG blocks all J-Class outbound BKK-LHR from 2-7 January 2017 and this extremely annoys me as I need to use my gold upgrade (I need to be as comfortable as I can before my January exams).
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Old Jul 19, 2016, 11:13 am
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May I take this opportunity to ask, where can I check online, how many more GUPs do I have available still?
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Old Jul 21, 2016, 3:17 am
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1. Go to the front page.
2. Select your route, date, and Business/First class option
3. On the booking page, select your fare (often called Royal Silk Saver Advantage if not select anything with lowest price for Business Class)
4. IMPORTANT: Click on FARE BASIS INFORMATION (last grey) button, look for fare basis code on the table.
5. BOTH flights (if round-trip booked) must have fare basis beginning with "J", such as "JRLE6THE". Not "C" or "D".
6. Look at the column of the fare you have selected (that shows J as the first letter), see what it tells you how many seats left, and there are 2 cases.
6.1 If there is nothing written: 9 or more seats left.
6.2 Something is written there: it will tell you how many seat left (less than 9) for that fare.
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Old Dec 23, 2016, 1:15 am
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release of J for GUP?

I'll regain ROP*G in a few days, and plan to use my GUP in Feb ICN-BKK-AKL return. However, I see on EF that most J class is already gone for BKK-AKL :-(. either side of core travel dates.

Has anybody had any experience in asking TG to release a J seat for GUP? I have Econ (Q) class already booked.

Cheers, TK
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Old Dec 23, 2016, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by Thai-Kiwi
I'll regain ROP*G in a few days, and plan to use my GUP in Feb ICN-BKK-AKL return. However, I see on EF that most J class is already gone for BKK-AKL :-(. either side of core travel dates.

Has anybody had any experience in asking TG to release a J seat for GUP? I have Econ (Q) class already booked.

Cheers, TK
Why not give them a call? Last time I did a GUP on LHR-BKK-HAN, the London TG office told me there was no availability on BKK-HAN and would I happy to be waitlisted. So I said yes, then the waitlist cleared a few days later and I got re ticketed for J throughout.
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Old Dec 30, 2016, 2:53 am
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Originally Posted by ChampagneSocialist
Why not give them a call? Last time I did a GUP on LHR-BKK-HAN, the London TG office told me there was no availability on BKK-HAN and would I happy to be waitlisted. So I said yes, then the waitlist cleared a few days later and I got re ticketed for J throughout.
Oh, I intend to. Just waiting for the status change to occur.

The necessary flight has posted overnight and my account notes that '0' miles are needed for the next status. I'd hoped that the status change would occur immediately once the miles posted and this would trigger a review of status, but nothing as yet. Not sure if a person is involved....

My intended flights are about 6 weeks away, are a 12 hours long haul, and are showing C9D0J0Z0 on the core date. Nearby dates are only a touch better:
D-1 C7D3J0Z0
D-2 C9D2J0Z0
D-4 C9D8J5Z0

Anyway, thanks for the response. TK
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Old Jan 10, 2017, 12:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Thai-Kiwi
Oh, I intend to. Just waiting for the status change to occur.

The necessary flight has posted overnight and my account notes that '0' miles are needed for the next status. I'd hoped that the status change would occur immediately once the miles posted and this would trigger a review of status, but nothing as yet. Not sure if a person is involved....
Thai-Kiwi, what happened in the end? When did the new GUP kick in for you? I have found myself in a somewhat similar situation, my 24-month Gold qualification period ends in exactly 1 month and I've just requalified as of Sunday. My activity statement does now say I have been renewed but Gold Award Eligibility still says "All complimentary upgrades have been used".

Guess I'd have to wait for my 24-month period to restart in Feb before the GUP and 5000 mile bonus are activated?
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Old Jan 11, 2017, 7:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ChampagneSocialist
Thai-Kiwi, what happened in the end? When did the new GUP kick in for you? I have found myself in a somewhat similar situation, my 24-month Gold qualification period ends in exactly 1 month and I've just requalified as of Sunday. My activity statement does now say I have been renewed but Gold Award Eligibility still says "All complimentary upgrades have been used".

Guess I'd have to wait for my 24-month period to restart in Feb before the GUP and 5000 mile bonus are activated?
In my case, I have risen from the ashes of 'no status' back to Gold effective from 30 Dec 16. So GUP1 shows in my account.

I emailed ROP office to confirm the 50% birthday award is also available in 2017 - it is. Plan is for me to use my GUP on ICN-Europe with Mrs TK on a 50% biz award. Just need to find a spot in the year when we can travel...
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Old Jan 16, 2017, 10:56 pm
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Does it matter what fare bucket Economy fare is purchased for GUP eligibility?
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Old Jan 17, 2017, 1:12 am
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Originally Posted by travelislife
Does it matter what fare bucket Economy fare is purchased for GUP eligibility?
You need to book in Q class or above to use a GUP to J.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 12:29 am
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Originally Posted by 11277m
You need to book in Q class or above to use a GUP to J.
I had heard the K class also is acceptable - search for the recent thread on this.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 1:31 am
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Originally Posted by Thai-Kiwi
I had heard the K class also is acceptable - search for the recent thread on this.
Ah yes, the K class that was introduced a couple of months ago. T K and S class 75% miles.
We'll need to keep an eye on that until we find exactly what THAI settle on for the GUP.
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