London cut to 1 a day?
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#48
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Well, I was both wrong and right in an earlier post, TG have not given up the Heathrow slot but leased it to another airline. Running an A380 on TG910/11 therefore makes sense.
TG have lost business to Emirates where those nearer Manchester can avoid a flight or long trek to Heathrow so they are looking to run a daily flight to Manchester instead.
All likely to help TG but personally I detest the daylight flight TG911 so will have to consider alternatives. What I need but wont be able to get at a reasonable price is EVA to BKK and Thai back to LHR
TG have lost business to Emirates where those nearer Manchester can avoid a flight or long trek to Heathrow so they are looking to run a daily flight to Manchester instead.
All likely to help TG but personally I detest the daylight flight TG911 so will have to consider alternatives. What I need but wont be able to get at a reasonable price is EVA to BKK and Thai back to LHR
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Hope to see TG916/917 return soon.
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My office is one hour from LHR if I leave at 6-6:30pm but if I want to be certain to get to LHR for 9-9:30am I will need to leave at 6am. TG911 takes a day out of my life and makes time zone adjustment in Thailand much much harder. I will have to look for alternatives. As my destination is Phuket the obvious one will be SQ. Another hour each way but better than losing a day.
TG need to code share or similar deal with the EVA LHR-BKK night flight in order to keep my business.
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TG is in a difficult posiiton. It has a fleet policy which is very Thai - i.e. not rationale to a foreinger.
if TG ditches one of its LHR slot pairs it will never get them back.
It does some very strange things. Every tried to book LHR-BKK 9 months ahead? Only fully flex fares tend to be loaded.
I've never understood why.
Also some of the domestic routes are very Thai. I mean - BKK-KKC; should be Thai Smile...
if TG ditches one of its LHR slot pairs it will never get them back.
It does some very strange things. Every tried to book LHR-BKK 9 months ahead? Only fully flex fares tend to be loaded.
I've never understood why.
Also some of the domestic routes are very Thai. I mean - BKK-KKC; should be Thai Smile...
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LHR - BKK is always best over night as is the return. Leaving BKK at 0030 and arriving LHR 0600 on a 12 hour flight really does help reset body clocks.
#53
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londonbus is correct about TG fleet.
It seems TG believe that a good proportion of TG917 will move to TG911. It may be very much less than they believe.
The best solution might have been to run Boeing 777s on both daily flights. If EVA can make money on BKK-LHR return at similar times to TG916/7 then why can't TG? BKK is their home airport, Thais predominately fly TG. One has the option of both flights being day or night whichever is your preference. All these advantages and basically they have screwed up due to piss poor senior management. The removal of Amranand for political reasons was a disaster for TG and now it and we are paying the price.
I see they have cancelled the Frankfurt night flight as well, now I admit I know very little about these matters but why not fly London - Frankfurt - Bangkok?
It seems TG believe that a good proportion of TG917 will move to TG911. It may be very much less than they believe.
The best solution might have been to run Boeing 777s on both daily flights. If EVA can make money on BKK-LHR return at similar times to TG916/7 then why can't TG? BKK is their home airport, Thais predominately fly TG. One has the option of both flights being day or night whichever is your preference. All these advantages and basically they have screwed up due to piss poor senior management. The removal of Amranand for political reasons was a disaster for TG and now it and we are paying the price.
I see they have cancelled the Frankfurt night flight as well, now I admit I know very little about these matters but why not fly London - Frankfurt - Bangkok?
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Bu now we CAN'T!
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Since TG likes to "look at SQ", let me ask this question:
How do we think/know how SQ makes it work on FRA-JFK and MUC-MAN?
In order to stay on the topic: Can TG do something similar with LHR?
How do we think/know how SQ makes it work on FRA-JFK and MUC-MAN?
In order to stay on the topic: Can TG do something similar with LHR?
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For anyone flying from North America to BKK connecting to TG flight from LHR, above schedule does make a lot of sense on both directions.
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Thai Air were warned repeatedly earlier in the year by Heathrow, "Use it or lose it" regarding the TG916/7 slot. The London staff also warned senior staff in Bangkok that Heathrow were serious. It seems Heathrow did, of course, mean it and the incompetent arrogant Thai management have been told they have lost the slot. The last TG916/7 is 26 March so they will have just one flight a day for the peak Song Kran period and beyond.
How much is a Heathrow slot worth? I reckon about £10 million and it has been given up for £0. No wonder they are losing money.
It is such a shame that what was a good airline that still has great frontline staff should have such dire senior management.
How much is a Heathrow slot worth? I reckon about £10 million and it has been given up for £0. No wonder they are losing money.
It is such a shame that what was a good airline that still has great frontline staff should have such dire senior management.