First Class seat Broken 12 hours uptight!upright!
#31
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My best guess is that:
- it was known that this seat was not fully functional
- the pax originally assigned to this seat was some sort of poo yai, certainly of a high social status.
- ground staff looked for the pax with the lowest possible social status, and swapped them into the non-functional seat.
- the Thai gentleman "volunteer" was staff/VIP (non-rev).
Welcome to the Land of (fake) Smiles.
- it was known that this seat was not fully functional
- the pax originally assigned to this seat was some sort of poo yai, certainly of a high social status.
- ground staff looked for the pax with the lowest possible social status, and swapped them into the non-functional seat.
- the Thai gentleman "volunteer" was staff/VIP (non-rev).
Welcome to the Land of (fake) Smiles.
#32
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: BKK
Programs: TG ROP Platinum, M&M Senator, IHG Platinum, Accor Platinum
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My best guess is that:
- it was known that this seat was not fully functional
- the pax originally assigned to this seat was some sort of poo yai, certainly of a high social status.
- ground staff looked for the pax with the lowest possible social status, and swapped them into the non-functional seat.
- the Thai gentleman "volunteer" was staff/VIP (non-rev).
Welcome to the Land of (fake) Smiles.
- it was known that this seat was not fully functional
- the pax originally assigned to this seat was some sort of poo yai, certainly of a high social status.
- ground staff looked for the pax with the lowest possible social status, and swapped them into the non-functional seat.
- the Thai gentleman "volunteer" was staff/VIP (non-rev).
Welcome to the Land of (fake) Smiles.
the "phoo yai" you are calling the American lady, who held the reservation on the malfunctioning seat could actually be a reference
- to her high social status
- to her size
- to her age (grand ma)
To look for the passenger with the "lowest possible social status" from a passenger list is probably pretty difficult, but of course many Thais like to play lottery, in particular those in the airline business!
#33
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To look for the passenger with the "lowest possible social status" from a passenger list is probably pretty difficult
Not really given all the data the airline has, and if after check-in, perhaps a slam dunk?
I am fairly certain that a great deal of thought, examination, discussions and ultimately a management decision went into this seat swap.
My point, such as it is, is that this sort of thing is SOP with TG, and unless you catch it up front - "why are you changing my seat assignment?" - you are at a disadvantage.
I would ask for an outrageous amount of compensation, in the hopes of getting something other than a wai/bow/sharp stick in the eye.
It could have been worse; your departure could have been delayed four hours while you waited for a VIP, whose entourage relocated everyone out of F and into C or Y, and if you complained on board you would be subject to arrest when landing at SBIA/BKK.
Not really given all the data the airline has, and if after check-in, perhaps a slam dunk?
I am fairly certain that a great deal of thought, examination, discussions and ultimately a management decision went into this seat swap.
My point, such as it is, is that this sort of thing is SOP with TG, and unless you catch it up front - "why are you changing my seat assignment?" - you are at a disadvantage.
I would ask for an outrageous amount of compensation, in the hopes of getting something other than a wai/bow/sharp stick in the eye.
It could have been worse; your departure could have been delayed four hours while you waited for a VIP, whose entourage relocated everyone out of F and into C or Y, and if you complained on board you would be subject to arrest when landing at SBIA/BKK.
#34
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Why you still bother ?
Dear fellow FTalkers !
What happened to the party of the OP is appalling, but not surprising.
Why you still bother? There are so many alternatives to TG and even to ROP. Did you notice that TG is now more expensive than other full service carriers on the same routes. For example LX is 10 % cheaper now in business class (with a much better product) and the same price in F flying from BKK to ZRH.
Even for flights towards Oceania, SIN is a convenient hub and SQ has a business class product which is even better than TG F.
Also by supporting TG you indirectly help a military dictatorship as TG is state controlled. Let the TIP's party for themselves in the TG premium classes (and the Thai governmenet pay the bill).
P.S.: This said, it is of course still convenient to redeem US FF points for awards on TG given the increasing reluctance of many airlines to open award space (LX as an extreme case where F awards are only available for M&M elites). Just keep your expectations down. This is what the OP should do: Be happy that you (still) could get an F award........
What happened to the party of the OP is appalling, but not surprising.
Why you still bother? There are so many alternatives to TG and even to ROP. Did you notice that TG is now more expensive than other full service carriers on the same routes. For example LX is 10 % cheaper now in business class (with a much better product) and the same price in F flying from BKK to ZRH.
Even for flights towards Oceania, SIN is a convenient hub and SQ has a business class product which is even better than TG F.
Also by supporting TG you indirectly help a military dictatorship as TG is state controlled. Let the TIP's party for themselves in the TG premium classes (and the Thai governmenet pay the bill).
P.S.: This said, it is of course still convenient to redeem US FF points for awards on TG given the increasing reluctance of many airlines to open award space (LX as an extreme case where F awards are only available for M&M elites). Just keep your expectations down. This is what the OP should do: Be happy that you (still) could get an F award........
Last edited by behuman; Nov 10, 2014 at 6:42 pm
#35
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#36
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First Class seat Broken 12 hours uptight!upright!
I mean the country USA , NOT the airline US ..... US Americans are sitting on huge amounts of points/miles they are trying to redeem and understadeably are trying to fly with the best possible carrier. TG for such a redemption is for sure a good choice. Just be aware what to expect.
Last edited by behuman; Nov 10, 2014 at 8:28 pm
#37
Join Date: Oct 2006
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TG911 oct 27 LHR-BKK Bottom line. Booked and received boarding passes for seats 3e+ 2E. At gate. 2E. Changed at gate to 2A. . 2A. Is broken. Force to sit up right( no power)12 hrs ! (. Manually 10-15 minutes converted into lay flat bed ). No light Given $172 duty free ( 5000tgbht) joke right?) On board staff very apologestic But Why was my wife boarding pass swopped by ground staff ? Yes award tickets. Yes Thai ,yes American lady now in 2E revenue Please Fters Help /Advise compose compensation claim/ complaint letter. Thanks td
Are you saying that the person who originally had the broken seat was on a paid ticket and your wife was on award ticket?
If so, than I think that's the reason, instead of racism, that your wife had to move.
#38
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I sympathize with this person because I too had a terrible F seat when I flew from FCO. My experience has been that broken seats or malfunctions are part of the TG inflight experience. Mai pen rai............
#39
Join Date: Jul 2012
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There should be no reason to differentiate between the methods of payment for tickets. You are in the F cabin, you get the same treatment as everyone else in the F cabin.
I am very surprised that the OP did not question the reason for the seat re-assignment. I would not have surrendered my wife's boarding pass until they told me the reason why