Is Omni open to all now?
#16
Founder of FlyerTalk
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 6,540
Maybe I can shed some light on this. Yes, I (alone) made a decision to open it up. Over time, I've come to value OMNI for its eclectic number of humor, off-topic and otherwise valuable information. The fact is that OMNI exists because our members asked for it years ago and in fact we were likely the first travel or deal-type Web site to offer the expanse of information beyond our specific topics of miles, points and travel. In reality because of the actions for a few, we sort of buttoned it up for many years. With the recent version upgrade of our software (vBulletin), I was looking over the changes in the base software and started to wonder why some of them were there and upon some research found example after example that indeed the Web has been moving forward in trends. So, with that in mind, i started to look around and while embarrassed to day it, "discovered" that nearly every travel or deal-content Web site had knocked us off, that is, they have their own off-topic forum, including the recently relaunched fodors.com (Fodorite Lounge). But I also noticed that all of them left their off-topic forums open for all members. Look at fodors.com, LonelyPlanet, TripAdvisor, Slickdeals.net or even FatWallet. Anyway, I started to think that perhaps much had changed since we started OMNI many years ago and that the trend seemed to be to make it easy for all members to share this type of casual information. Can anyone deny that these Web sites also have very passionate members? And in some ways, my decision was made to try and make it easier on FT to get around, reduce the efforts necessary to try and overcome these restrictions and to make OMNI that much more valuable to our members who do see that wonderful wealth of information about topics in our lives outside travel. If I trust you with giving me valuable travel information, why wouldn't I trust you to give me some additional valuable information, maybe about which flat-screen TV is best or which to choose between DirecTV or Comcast, etc.
Anyway, it was a decision that was thought out and researched quite a bit.
Anyway, it was a decision that was thought out and researched quite a bit.
#17
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 9,740
Using the same logic, will there be any reconsideration of OMNI (and OMNI/PR) posts counting towards a member's post count?
#18
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: check swarm
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Posts: 14,403
Maybe I can shed some light on this...i started to look around and while embarrassed to day it, "discovered" that nearly every travel or deal-content Web site had knocked us off, that is, they have their own off-topic forum, including the recently relaunched fodors.com (Fodorite Lounge). But I also noticed that all of them left their off-topic forums open for all members. Look at fodors.com, LonelyPlanet, TripAdvisor, Slickdeals.net or even FatWallet. Anyway, I started to think that perhaps much had changed since we started OMNI many years ago and that the trend seemed to be to make it easy for all members to share this type of casual information. Can anyone deny that these Web sites also have very passionate members? And in some ways, my decision was made to try and make it easier on FT to get around, reduce the efforts necessary to try and overcome these restrictions and to make OMNI that much more valuable to our members who do see that wonderful wealth of information about topics in our lives outside travel. If I trust you with giving me valuable travel information, why wouldn't I trust you to give me some additional valuable information, maybe about which flat-screen TV is best or which to choose between DirecTV or Comcast, etc.
#19
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 11,377
#20
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SJC/SFO/OAK
Programs: BD Gold (and future SEN), 0.2MM AA EXP, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 3,107
I agree, and even worse, our previous posts are now showing up in Search Engine results. This is very very bad.
I patronize FlyerTalk because the noise to quality ratio of the information is superior than FatWallet, Fodors, etc. Call me elitist, but I feel you need to have some give and take, meaning in order to post or see, you need to be signed in. I pray FlyerTalk does not turn into TripAdvisor, SlickDeals, etc. It's obviously Randy's show and right to make a strategic decision to reach a wider, broader audience, but FlyerTalk's value is it's uniqueness and niche which is what makes folks so passionate.
I patronize FlyerTalk because the noise to quality ratio of the information is superior than FatWallet, Fodors, etc. Call me elitist, but I feel you need to have some give and take, meaning in order to post or see, you need to be signed in. I pray FlyerTalk does not turn into TripAdvisor, SlickDeals, etc. It's obviously Randy's show and right to make a strategic decision to reach a wider, broader audience, but FlyerTalk's value is it's uniqueness and niche which is what makes folks so passionate.
#21
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Living the dream in Antigua and the nightmare in Florida
Programs: AA PLAT 2MM, *A Gold, WN detractor
Posts: 49,811
I'd second that motion. The minimum post count requirement was a touch silly, since those desperate to spread good cheer around Omni would just pile up 180 worthless posts in other forums. Requiring at least a log in seems to be reasonable. If the day comes when anyone can post as anonymous, all will be lost.
#22
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 30,555
#23
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Benicia CA
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75K, AA 3.8MM, UA 1.1MM, enjoying the retired life
Posts: 31,849
I haven't seen the similar type of posting runs to get into OMNI. I suspect most of FT doesn't even know about the OMNI part of FT.
#24
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SLC/DCA
Programs: DL DM (and NRSA), UA NA, HH Dia, National Exec Elite
Posts: 1,764
I'm also disappointed about the search engines being able to scan OMNI. OMNI was always thought to be away from the prying eyes of Google (and others). I'm going to have to go back and make sure I'm okay with the search engines picking up my posts... At least a little more warning to FT would have been appreciated ...
#25
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: LAS - I'm All In!
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, Marriott PP
Posts: 3,639
But since its not related to travel it still doesnt count?
I'm also disappointed about the search engines being able to scan OMNI. OMNI was always thought to be away from the prying eyes of Google (and others). I'm going to have to go back and make sure I'm okay with the search engines picking up my posts... At least a little more warning to FT would have been appreciated ...
I'm also disappointed about the search engines being able to scan OMNI. OMNI was always thought to be away from the prying eyes of Google (and others). I'm going to have to go back and make sure I'm okay with the search engines picking up my posts... At least a little more warning to FT would have been appreciated ...
#26
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: LAS - I'm All In!
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, Marriott PP
Posts: 3,639
But i guess my posts do count here when I complain about posts not counting in OMNI...
That said, I don't really care either way about posts counting and have no idea why other people do... What is this a contest to see who's 'thing' is being than the others?
That said, I don't really care either way about posts counting and have no idea why other people do... What is this a contest to see who's 'thing' is being than the others?
#27
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: LAS - I'm All In!
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, Marriott PP
Posts: 3,639
Also, I also give out a lot of my wine allocations (lately) to OMNI becuase I feel like the members have given back to me so it is the least I can do to them... I guess, at least, now that I have a few members I can get my wine to is good for both of us, but in the future I will no be offering it to a limitless OMNI...
#28
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: May 2002
Location: YEG
Programs: HH Silver
Posts: 56,444
I patronize FlyerTalk because the noise to quality ratio of the information is superior than FatWallet, Fodors, etc. Call me elitist, but I feel you need to have some give and take, meaning in order to post or see, you need to be signed in. I pray FlyerTalk does not turn into TripAdvisor, SlickDeals, etc. It's obviously Randy's show and right to make a strategic decision to reach a wider, broader audience, but FlyerTalk's value is it's uniqueness and niche which is what makes folks so passionate.
#30
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: check swarm
Programs: DL DM & 2MM, SPG/Bonvoid LT Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, $tarbucks Titanium
Posts: 14,403
Also, I also give out a lot of my wine allocations (lately) to OMNI becuase I feel like the members have given back to me so it is the least I can do to them... I guess, at least, now that I have a few members I can get my wine to is good for both of us, but in the future I will no be offering it to a limitless OMNI...