Mar 4, 2019, 9:30 am
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Sep 10, 2016, 7:54 pm
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I like reading the short news snippets on the front page of FlyerTalk. With some of them, I just read that snippet, with others, I click through to the original publication and read that one.
Yesterday, I stumbled on this snippet by Ryan Boyd. http://www.flyertalk.com/articles/he...ce-policy.html
The content was somewhat ambiguous/confusing, and when I went to the source (BBC News), I realized what was the reason (actually more than one) why that snippet seemed awkward. Since that page offers writing comments, I wrote one. (Actually, prior to that, I searched around and couldn't find any specific rules for posting comments there.)
At first, the post was awaiting a moderator (and I understand that it is an anti-spam measure). I am not sure who moderates those comments (the author or some dedicated moderator), but today, the comment disappeared without any trace (or a PM). If the comment violated some rules, I'd be interested to hear what those are, so that I can avoid that in the future.
If IB does not want any discussion in that area, then why have "comments" mechanism being present there?
Below is the comment in question. I am posting it here for two reasons:
1. To show what I posted (I still do not see anything offensive.)
2. To actually share my feedback in case the site administration is interested in improving the quality of FT news snippets.
Yesterday, I stumbled on this snippet by Ryan Boyd. http://www.flyertalk.com/articles/he...ce-policy.html
The content was somewhat ambiguous/confusing, and when I went to the source (BBC News), I realized what was the reason (actually more than one) why that snippet seemed awkward. Since that page offers writing comments, I wrote one. (Actually, prior to that, I searched around and couldn't find any specific rules for posting comments there.)
At first, the post was awaiting a moderator (and I understand that it is an anti-spam measure). I am not sure who moderates those comments (the author or some dedicated moderator), but today, the comment disappeared without any trace (or a PM). If the comment violated some rules, I'd be interested to hear what those are, so that I can avoid that in the future.
If IB does not want any discussion in that area, then why have "comments" mechanism being present there?
Below is the comment in question. I am posting it here for two reasons:
1. To show what I posted (I still do not see anything offensive.)
2. To actually share my feedback in case the site administration is interested in improving the quality of FT news snippets.
Ryan,
You paraphrased portions of the story from BBC.
In that process, you omitted mentioning about the report (by Independent Chief Inspector of Borders and Immigration).
However, you kept the quotation marks around the text quoted by BBC from the report. In your case, however, those quotation marks are meaningless. Moreover, it gives an impression of those words and phrases should not be taken literally. I.e. "alienate" is not quite the same as just _alienate_. And "more confrontations" might not mean more confrontations.
There are other, more minor things that got somewhat awkward in your rephrasing. E.g., the original BBC article is talking about _customs_ staff, not just any "airport staff", as you wrote. (And the same applies to the managers.) So, the meaning is somewhat distorted.
I understand that you were making an effort to avoid plagiarizing, but the outcome is not on par.
And, by the way, I suspect it still might not withstand the plagiarism test, as you kept the structures of the sentences very close, practically the same.
I'd suggest working more carefully on your write-ups.
You paraphrased portions of the story from BBC.
In that process, you omitted mentioning about the report (by Independent Chief Inspector of Borders and Immigration).
However, you kept the quotation marks around the text quoted by BBC from the report. In your case, however, those quotation marks are meaningless. Moreover, it gives an impression of those words and phrases should not be taken literally. I.e. "alienate" is not quite the same as just _alienate_. And "more confrontations" might not mean more confrontations.
There are other, more minor things that got somewhat awkward in your rephrasing. E.g., the original BBC article is talking about _customs_ staff, not just any "airport staff", as you wrote. (And the same applies to the managers.) So, the meaning is somewhat distorted.
I understand that you were making an effort to avoid plagiarizing, but the outcome is not on par.
And, by the way, I suspect it still might not withstand the plagiarism test, as you kept the structures of the sentences very close, practically the same.
I'd suggest working more carefully on your write-ups.
Last edited by JDiver; Feb 5, 2017 at 2:57 pm Reason: Restore original post title
Feb 1, 2017, 9:42 am
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Stay out of politics!
Keep your articles on topic, and stop the Anti-Trump rhetoric! I wouldn't like to come here and read how much you don't like Obama either! What's wrong with your writers, cant find any decent AIRLINE stuff to write about!? <redacted> Keep it neutral and on-topic, or your going to find yourself loosing subscribers, and gaining NONE!
Last edited by JDiver; Feb 5, 2017 at 2:52 pm Reason: Redacted specific political content
Feb 1, 2017, 11:06 am
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While I don't agree with OP's politics, and despite the alarming number of spelling errors (I spotted at least 4) in his post, I agree that there probably is too much political conversation on FT. However, the moderators do a good job of keeping it all in OMNI, so that the other forums generally stay on topic.
Feb 1, 2017, 11:40 am
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After discussion among the Co-Moderators of both The Suggestion Box and the Technical Support and Feedback forum, we decided to relocate discussion pertinent to the FlyerTalk front page news stories from The Suggestion Box in this thread. (The FT front page is in the purview of Internet Brands - FlyerTalk Admin, not the Community Director.)
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Last edited by cblaisd; Aug 29, 2017 at 1:01 pm Reason: Update
Aug 15, 2018, 7:52 am
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Can we maybe not link to porn sites in the "must read" section')
I'm talking about this article: https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/e...ets-naked.html
Now, I've gotten used to the "news articles" on FT generally being incredibly lazy two-line summaries of actual news stories, with a link to said story at the end. But in this case, the author apparently found it necessary to link to a post he found while performing activities I don't want to speculate about, presumably because the naked girl in the picture took a selfie in an Emirates A380 F bathroom. The link is described as "To read more about this story, go here", which made me think that I was going to see a news story about someone running naked through the plane, not amateur porn. That's not a link you want to click at work.
Is this really related to Flyertalk and if so, are we to expect weekly news updates on porn clips featuring planes as a setting?
Now, I've gotten used to the "news articles" on FT generally being incredibly lazy two-line summaries of actual news stories, with a link to said story at the end. But in this case, the author apparently found it necessary to link to a post he found while performing activities I don't want to speculate about, presumably because the naked girl in the picture took a selfie in an Emirates A380 F bathroom. The link is described as "To read more about this story, go here", which made me think that I was going to see a news story about someone running naked through the plane, not amateur porn. That's not a link you want to click at work.
Is this really related to Flyertalk and if so, are we to expect weekly news updates on porn clips featuring planes as a setting?
Last edited by JDiver; Aug 15, 2018 at 10:43 am Reason: Restore original post title
Aug 15, 2018, 10:41 am
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I'm talking about this article: https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/e...ets-naked.html
Now, I've gotten used to the "news articles" on FT generally being incredibly lazy two-line summaries of actual news stories, with a link to said story at the end. But in this case, the author apparently found it necessary to link to a post he found while performing activities I don't want to speculate about, presumably because the naked girl in the picture took a selfie in an Emirates A380 F bathroom. The link is described as "To read more about this story, go here", which made me think that I was going to see a news story about someone running naked through the plane, not amateur porn. That's not a link you want to click at work.
Is this really related to Flyertalk and if so, are we to expect weekly news updates on porn clips featuring planes as a setting?
Now, I've gotten used to the "news articles" on FT generally being incredibly lazy two-line summaries of actual news stories, with a link to said story at the end. But in this case, the author apparently found it necessary to link to a post he found while performing activities I don't want to speculate about, presumably because the naked girl in the picture took a selfie in an Emirates A380 F bathroom. The link is described as "To read more about this story, go here", which made me think that I was going to see a news story about someone running naked through the plane, not amateur porn. That's not a link you want to click at work.
Is this really related to Flyertalk and if so, are we to expect weekly news updates on porn clips featuring planes as a setting?
Reddit is not a “porn site”, albeit it does have adults only content.
When you voluntarily clicked the link in the article to see what Reddit offered, you were presented with a warning you apparently chose to override (see below). A person reading FT in the workplace would be presented the same “NSFW” screen you were.
As this is a comment on the news section of FT, we will merge it into the existing, closed thread. Please note the Wikipost at the top of the page, which states, in part:
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Last edited by JDiver; Aug 15, 2018 at 10:57 am Reason: Add
Sep 16, 2018, 10:02 pm
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Southwest? Southwest didn't increase their bag fees.
If they're mentioning Southwest's increase in Early Bird Check In fees, then they did a piss poor job by not even mentioning Southwest in the article, so either the editor was furloughed or the title was intentionally misleading clickbait.
Sep 17, 2018, 12:38 pm
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Southwest? Southwest didn't increase their bag fees.
If they're mentioning Southwest's increase in Early Bird Check In fees, then they did a piss poor job by not even mentioning Southwest in the article, so either the editor was furloughed or the title was intentionally misleading clickbait.
Sep 17, 2018, 3:36 pm
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FWIW, changing a URL generally breaks lots of things on blogs. There are tools/plug-ins that can handle the rewrites but they add overhead and a chance for something else to break so they're not used particularly often.
Oct 8, 2018, 7:50 pm
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Either this writer can't tell the difference between OneWorld the alliance and Club World, the class of service, or they still haven't let the copy editor out of the locked cupboard yet.
Oct 22, 2018, 11:19 pm
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https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/b...ir-strike.html
Strike 1: Terrible title implies that a labor movement was thwarted by a bird strike
Strike 2: Article says Loganair, but the photo is of Flybe, one of their biggest competitors.
Strike 3: If they were using the Flybe photo as an example of the aircraft type, they still have the aircraft type wrong.
Strike 1: Terrible title implies that a labor movement was thwarted by a bird strike
Strike 2: Article says Loganair, but the photo is of Flybe, one of their biggest competitors.
Strike 3: If they were using the Flybe photo as an example of the aircraft type, they still have the aircraft type wrong.
Oct 23, 2018, 6:14 am
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https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/b...ir-strike.html
Strike 1: Terrible title implies that a labor movement was thwarted by a bird strike
Strike 2: Article says Loganair, but the photo is of Flybe, one of their biggest competitors.
Strike 3: If they were using the Flybe photo as an example of the aircraft type, they still have the aircraft type wrong.
Strike 1: Terrible title implies that a labor movement was thwarted by a bird strike
Strike 2: Article says Loganair, but the photo is of Flybe, one of their biggest competitors.
Strike 3: If they were using the Flybe photo as an example of the aircraft type, they still have the aircraft type wrong.
Sumburgh looks like a nice little place to get away from the world for a bit, though.