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Q. What is a Wikipost?

A Wikipost contains content that appears at the top of a thread, usually used to summarize important information in multi-page threads: "This is a community-maintained wikipost containing the most important information from this thread. You may start or edit a Wikipost once you have been on FT for 90 days and have made 90 posts." (Written at the top of every Wikipost.)


Q. Why are Wikiposts here? What is their purpose?

Threads that have high interest can grow very quickly, making it tiresome to sort through sometimes hundreds of posts to find information. A Wikipost is designed to contain a summary of relevant information, and may contain links to especially relevant posts, related threads and off-site resources. Any member with "90/90" can update obsolete information or update Wikipost information, and of course there's plenty of space to discuss or ask about more specific details.


Q. What display modes are offered for Wikiposts?

There are three modes of wiki post display: (c/o IBobi)
1. "Summary view" (default) -- this shows the top of the wikipost only.

2. Full display (when you click "Click here to display full Wiki") -- this shows the whole Wikipost.

3. Hidden (when you click the "-" sign at the top right) -- reduces this and ALL Wikiposts on FT to a narrow blue bar that says "Wikipost", until you click the "+" on one of them again, which will return them to default view.

(see more below)
Q. Can I link to a Wikipost?

Yes. Click on Wiki Link on the upper right of the wiki and the Wikipost will display ax a single post. You can copy the link and paste it elsewhere. Click "back" in your browser to return to the page you were on.


Q. Why are so many threads with Wikiposts concentrated on the front pages of some fora? cx

The most popular / used threads are often those with complicated content - frequent flyer or guest program changes, securing awards, etc. These are the threads most likely to have Wikiposts summarizing key points.


Q. How / why did Wikiposts come about on FT?

Wikiposts came about after requests from members to Internet Brands and a lot of forethought, followed by Beta testing. They are considered a valuable asset to FlyerTalk, and a viable and "closer" alternative to maintaining an off site, separate wiki.


Q. What do "wiki" and "Wikipost" mean?

The word "wiki" (wee-kee) is Hawaiian Polynisian for "fast" or "quick". Here, a Wikipost offers a quick look at the topic covered by a thread.


Q. Can I see a listing of Wikiposts?

Yes. Up in the dark blue navigation bar, a little below the FlyerTalk logo, it says "Flyertalk [sic, should be a capital T] Wiki." Click that and then "Show all Wiki [sic, should be plural]" from the sub-menu.

(Thanks to jackal)


Q. What do I do if I just don't want to read the Wikiposts?

Just continue browsing normally. Only minimized Wikiposts (a few lines) will be revealed until you click on / touch the blue "Click here to display Full Wiki" line. The full Wikipost will only be displayed if you click the link to read it. Ignore the Wikipost if you don't want to read the information therein.


Q. What do I do if I feel there are too darn many Wikiposts?

You can go to the "Wikipost" blue menu bar at the top of a thread page and click on the "-" sign at the right end of the bar, which will minimize all wikis; you never have to see a Wikipost again. That information never has to intrude on your reading of FlyerTalk. And, of course you can turn wiki posts "on" by clicking the "+" in the same menu bar when you wish.)

Alternatively, you can go to your FT Profile, look at Your Control Panel, Edit Options. Toward the bottom of the page you'll see


Wikipost Hide All

Hide all Wiki Posts in Threads
Hide all wikiposts
Be sure that option is turned on to eliminate seeing wiki posts, off to reveal them once more.
Q. What are the alternatives to wikiposts in a large forum?


1) Multiple (dozens or even more) threads with members having to search them all for answers, or start a new one out of frustration, assuring information fragmentation and dispersion.

2) Mega threads with hundreds of posts to sort through for answers.

Thanks to wetrat0
Q. I can't open and edit a particular Wikipost! Why?

A few wiki posts may be locked by moderators to prevent making changes; these preferably should be clearly marked with an explanation.


Q. I can't even see Wikiposts! Why?

If you are using the mobile skin, you can not see Wikiposts at this time.

If otherwise and you can not see the wiki posts:

Assuming you are signed in, have been on FT 90 or more days and have made 90 or more posts:

In your FT Profile, look at Your Control Panel, Edit Options. Toward the bottom of the page you'll see

Wikipost Hide All

Hide all Wiki Posts in Threads
Hide all wikiposts
Be sure that option is turned off.


Q. How do I open and start a wikipost myself?

To create a wiki, go to the Thread Tools menu on the right of the thread menu bar, click / touch Create a Wikipost


Q. I've got "90/90"; how do I edit a wikipost?

To edit a wiki, expand by clicking / touching the "Click here to display full wiki" message, then see the Edit button in the lower right of the wiki.


Q. What formatting can I use to make a wikipost more "eye-tractive" and readable?

Wikis accepts a lot of common BBCode formatting, some of which is shown below - but not all.

Bold and colors work! strikeouts work, as does highlighting.

Sizes work as well, from larger than this to this.

However, names of threads like WikiPost problems are not being normalized. (URL links to FlyerTalk in posts will render such: "Wikipost" / wiki post questions, issues, discussion.

In Wikiposts, they will render as full URL: "Wikipost" / wiki post questions, issues, discussion (consolidated) look at the above URL to see how you can adjust that.

See Calchas' post #122 to read about the wiki history rendering.


Q. Can I embed or add illustrations or photos in Wikiposts?

Links to photographs and graphic images can be embedded in wikiposts; framed video links can not be, nor can images be attached as in posts.

Link to an extensive thread about embedding images in the Travel Photography forum.

Link to thread in Technical Support and Feedback forum on embedding images.

Q. Can I create "chapters" within in Wikiposts with internal links and anchor points?[

Yes; as of September 2016, you can. Here are the basics:

Using the tag "wikifrom" you can write a text, and the name of the anchor you want to point to like this:

Visit Chapter 1
Visit Chapter 2

Then you can use the tag "wikito" to allow easy wikipost navigation:


Chapter 1 - Monday
Some text here.


Chapter 2 - Tuesday
Some more text here.


(Here is how it looks without the closing bracket)

[wikifrom=chapter1]Visit Chapter 1[/wikifrom
[wikifrom=chapter2]Visit Chapter 2[/wikifrom

Then you can use the tag "wikito" to allow easy wikipost navigation:

[wikito]chapter1[/wikito
Chapter 1 - Monday
Some text here.

[wikito]chapter2[/wikito
Chapter 2 - Tuesday
Some more text here.

See post number 205, by IBtyen.
The WIKI SANDBOX:







Revised 7 Jan 2017 - JDiver
  • Testing out a bug
  • Every time the wiki is edited a blank bullet point gets added to this list.
  • testing
Will a new bullet appear if list is not at the bottom?
No
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Old Aug 1, 2016, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver
Some of us have used [QUOTE] boxes for visual separation, but since the box was shrunk in width and there's no intent to restore to full page width with minimal margins that option has been lost.
[indent] any use?

I agree that something like [link] would be useful.
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Old Aug 1, 2016, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by beltway
I can't recall whether this has been suggested already, so here goes.

How about enabling the use of HTML anchor tags in wikis? Many of the FT wikis are quite long, so the ability to link to a point within a wiki would be extremely useful.

About the only alternative I'm aware of is to put the relevant content into several consecutive posts. (See, for example, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilto...ch-2015-a.html.) Of course, in that case you lose the shared-access benefit of a wiki.
Not sure if this is feasible but I'll check.
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Old Aug 1, 2016, 10:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas
[indent] any use?

I agree that something like [link] would be useful.
If there was an [unindent] it might work. The problem is the automatic truncation of the quote box on thd right:

Originally Posted by beltway
Separate issue. Yes, you need good layout to guide the eye. But when a wiki is several screens long, there's a need for interactive navigational aids. Just having a TOC isn't as good.
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Old Aug 14, 2016, 6:35 am
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Any word for mobile support yet? Highly needed.
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Old Aug 15, 2016, 6:14 pm
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Originally Posted by BobbySteel
Any word for mobile support yet? Highly needed.
Coming, not ETA yet.
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by beltway
When did FT add the ability to link directly to a wiki? I just noticed this feature, which is a Very Good Idea.

And are there subfeatures, such as the ability to link to anchors within the wiki? That would be useful, as some wikis are quite lengthy.
I just now checked to see whether or not the direct wiki link works in the mobile interface. Unsurprisingly, it does not, at least for iPad/iOS users. It just opens a new blank tab.
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 6:23 pm
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There is no Wiki in the mobile skin yet.
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 8:30 pm
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Originally Posted by IBobi
There is no Wiki in the mobile skin yet.
I know this. Boy, do I know it.

The point is that even if I paste a link to the wiki in a post, it evidently doesn't work for mobile users. That's badly b0rked; it should open it in a separate window just like a link to an individual post.
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Old Sep 1, 2016, 5:36 pm
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Originally Posted by beltway
I can't recall whether this has been suggested already, so here goes.

How about enabling the use of HTML anchor tags in wikis? Many of the FT wikis are quite long, so the ability to link to a point within a wiki would be extremely useful.

About the only alternative I'm aware of is to put the relevant content into several consecutive posts. (See, for example, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilto...ch-2015-a.html.) Of course, in that case you lose the shared-access benefit of a wiki.
I will soon have steps on how to do this... but as of now it should be installed. You're welcome to poke around and see if you can do it...
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Old Sep 2, 2016, 9:43 am
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Originally Posted by IBobi
I will soon have steps on how to do this... but as of now it should be installed. You're welcome to poke around and see if you can do it...
Thank you!

Can you disclose the basic format? I tried
[url=#anchor]Click here to read Part X[/url]

[name=#anchor]Part X[/name]
without success.
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Old Sep 2, 2016, 2:10 pm
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Here are the basics:

Using the tag "wikifrom" you can write a text, and the name of the anchor you want to point to like this:

Visit Chapter 1
Visit Chapter 2

Then you can use the tag "wikito" to allow easy wikipost navigation:


Chapter 1 - Monday
Some text here.


Chapter 2 - Tuesday
Some more text here.


(Here is how it looks without the closing bracket)

[wikifrom=chapter1]Visit Chapter 1[/wikifrom
[wikifrom=chapter2]Visit Chapter 2[/wikifrom

Then you can use the tag "wikito" to allow easy wikipost navigation:

[wikito]chapter1[/wikito
Chapter 1 - Monday
Some text here.

[wikito]chapter2[/wikito
Chapter 2 - Tuesday
Some more text here.

Originally Posted by beltway
Thank you!

Can you disclose the basic format? I tried
[url=#anchor]Click here to read Part X[/url]

[name=#anchor]Part X[/name]
without success.
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Old Sep 2, 2016, 3:05 pm
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Thanks, IBtyen. That seems to be working well!
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Old Sep 2, 2016, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by IBtyen
Here are the basics:
Thank you! ^
This looks very good; among other things, it even auto-converts 1) deep links during editing (preview before saving wiki changes) to 2) deep links once the wiki is saved.

For anyone who wants to see what this looks like in a long, complicated wiki, take a look at
One slight issue: if I include a deep wiki link in a regular post--say, to point someone to a specific wiki section--the interface opens a new window with that section at the top, but with the wiki still contracted. Clicking on "Click here to display full wiki" opens the full wiki, but scrolled back to the top.

Example

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Old Sep 14, 2016, 2:01 pm
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Wiki editing seems to be down at the moment. I've tried to edit 2 wikis in different threads, but am getting an error page.
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Old Sep 14, 2016, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by beltway
Wiki editing seems to be down at the moment. I've tried to edit 2 wikis in different threads, but am getting an error page.
Having similar issue here, tried threads in different subfora without luck.
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