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To me, the term general aviation means private planes. I think it's a technical term referring to the regulations under which these flights operated versus the rules for scheduled commercial flights. It doesn't include--either in this technical sense or in common use--balloon rides, gliders, etc. and it might or might not include helicopter services, some of which are scheduled commercial flights and seem to require TSA security, but that might be an artifact of using commercial airport terminals.
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Why not? It would make entertaining reading for those of us who are curious about the thoughts of people who take private jets.
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It doesn't include--either in this technical sense or in common use--balloon rides, gliders, etc. and it might or might not include helicopter services, some of which are scheduled commercial flights and seem to require TSA security, but that might be an artifact of using commercial airport terminals.
Wikipedia has a good definition:
General aviation (GA) is all civil aviation operations other than scheduled air services and non-scheduled air transport operations for remuneration or hire. General aviation flights range from gliders and powered parachutes to corporate business jet flights. The majority of the world's air traffic falls into this category, and most of the world's airports serve general aviation exclusively.
General aviation covers a large range of activities, both commercial and non-commercial, including flying clubs, flight training, agricultural aviation, light aircraft manufacturing and maintenance.
General aviation covers a large range of activities, both commercial and non-commercial, including flying clubs, flight training, agricultural aviation, light aircraft manufacturing and maintenance.
The technical definition most certainly does include balloons, gliders, and private jets.
BTW, powered parachutes?? We definitely need to add that into the forum description.
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How about Non-Commercial Aviation?
ETA: I agree that while "General Aviation" is technically correct, it is also confusing for people who are not familiar with the term. I recall even as an early frequent-flyer driving past a "General Aviation" part of an airport and having no idea what it meant.
ETA: I agree that while "General Aviation" is technically correct, it is also confusing for people who are not familiar with the term. I recall even as an early frequent-flyer driving past a "General Aviation" part of an airport and having no idea what it meant.
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How about Non-Commercial Aviation?
ETA: I agree that while "General Aviation" is technically correct, it is also confusing for people who are not familiar with the term. I recall even as an early frequent-flyer driving past a "General Aviation" part of an airport and having no idea what it meant.
ETA: I agree that while "General Aviation" is technically correct, it is also confusing for people who are not familiar with the term. I recall even as an early frequent-flyer driving past a "General Aviation" part of an airport and having no idea what it meant.
That said, it does make certain sense to someone who's not versed in the technical terminology.
However, I think CMK10's proposed title is sufficiently both accurate and clear as to what the forum will entail.
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I'm going to reverse my opinion, I do think that General Aviation is the most fitting. Also I don't think the title should be too long.
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You will find that sites like this take up far less hard disk space than you'd imagine. There are gigs and gigs of free space on most servers that you could host another hundred sites like this on before there'd be any constraint or complaint. In a similar vein, that's how Gmail can boast so much storage space and actually get away with providing it if needed.
It has everything to do with what I posted upthread: whether taking the discussion of the proposed topic out of existing places it's discussed and sequestering it in its own, new place will lead to a better quality of discussion. That is what TalkBoard members must be convinced of in order to support a new forum.
That has zero to do with storage space or server capacity or anything else.
+1 for "General Aviation, Private Jets and other Non-Airline Aviation" as a title, even though it is a little long.
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Why not vote the forum into existence first and then select a name?
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The name of a new forum and its description should be as clear as possible as to its purpose from the start for:
- FlyerTalk members to post to it
- Moderators to know which content should be moved into it, if any
- The community director should only have to deal with it once
- Promotion purposes — such as an announcement in the TalkMail newsletter
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It's enough of a process to create and vote on one motion. We prefer to minimize the weeping and gnashing of teeth, and going through the arduous process of creating and voting on two motions does not appeal to us.
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+1 on an Alternate Air Travel forum, regardless of name.
I just found this thread having come looking for info on Empty Leg consolidators for private jets.
Just my 2 cents, but I'd fence it off for air travel for the purpose of transit, and exclude air travel for the sake of pleasure. ie. yes to helicopters, but no balloons and gliders (unless there is a commercial transit service I haven't heard about).
I just found this thread having come looking for info on Empty Leg consolidators for private jets.
Just my 2 cents, but I'd fence it off for air travel for the purpose of transit, and exclude air travel for the sake of pleasure. ie. yes to helicopters, but no balloons and gliders (unless there is a commercial transit service I haven't heard about).
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I don't agree on this point though. Seems like as good a place as any for gliders and zeppelins and such.
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Any American who has ever driven to almost any airport has seen a highway sign for "General Aviation." Since most of those folks are going to the airport for purposes related to an airline, I think most folks will think that "General Aviation" means "not airline" -- which pretty well covers what seems to be the general intent. A faq post can explain in more detail, but a title needs to be both pithy and accurate, imo.
Of course we could also structure a forum by Part 91 operations, etc., but that might be a little less intuitive