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Old Apr 27, 2016, 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by oenophilist
In my opinion, if it is unique to a particular airline or destination, then it belongs in that forum. Otherwise, it seems like a good fit for Alternate Air Travel.
so include general threads on VIP/VVIP services at commercial airports?

i will do some more searching
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Old Apr 27, 2016, 12:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
so include general threads on VIP/VVIP services at commercial airports?

i will do some more searching
Well, I included the Signature link because the company is a FBO that operates in general aviation terminals across the globe. If you are talking about VIP services that are typical of (and exclusive to) flying commercial, then it probably still fits in TravelBuzz.
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Old Apr 28, 2016, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by oenophilist
Hi,

I would like to suggest the creation of a new forum section call "Private Jets". With the advent of JetSmarter, as well as several other new programs (e.g. Victor, Cojetage), private jets are now becoming accessible to a broader community of travelers. These flights have already been featured in trip reports, where there has been some active debate on the topic of flying private. The nature of these programs will be of interest to a broader section of the FlyerTalk community.

I think the most appropriate place for this is a general Private Jet category in "Miles and Points" under the "Airlines and Mileage Programs" section. Alternatively, it could be positioned under "Special Interest Travel" in the "Travel & Dining" forum.

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Private Jet forum? .......absolutely.....
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Old Apr 28, 2016, 2:38 pm
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Even though I dont think I could afford it. I would definitely lurk in a private jet forum. And who knows I might pick up a trick that allows me to catch a private jet somewhere.
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Old Apr 28, 2016, 4:00 pm
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I am thinking of proposing a motion — such as this one:
Members of TalkBoard recommend to the Community Director that a forum — to be named Alternate Air Travel — be created, discussing topics which are not covered by commercial aviation — such as private jet travel, charter flights, air taxi services, helicopters and dirigibles within the description of the forum; and that any existing discussions in other forums which pertain to this topic be moved into the new forum once created.
Before it is put forth to an official motion, does anyone have any comments on how to improve it — as well as suggest a better name for this new forum?
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Old Apr 28, 2016, 4:59 pm
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No comments other than that it would fall under the "Travel&Dining" category.
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Old Apr 28, 2016, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Canarsie
I am thinking of proposing a motion — such as this one:Before it is put forth to an official motion, does anyone have any comments on how to improve it — as well as suggest a better name for this new forum?
As I said in the private forum, I think we should first figure out exactly what will and will not be included.

What's written here suggests that a lot of material will be moved from the destination travel fora that pertains to local services, such as charter flights to access particular remote regions or sightseeing helicopter tours, which would seem to contradict the way such issues have been handled here in the past. It might be more logical to put general discussion of these services and any large operators that cross cities/regions in the new forum, but let locally provided services remain in their respective destination fora.

As for the title, I'm glad we're now thinking of it as alternate rather than alternative, but maybe it can be improved. If it evolves to be abbreviated as AAT, that seems OK too.

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Old Apr 28, 2016, 8:32 pm
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And as I said in the private forum when you raised the point about defining it (which I agree w/ btw), you posted a list t of possibilities/things to consider. I encouraged you to share them w/ fters - aka, post that post in the public forum to get their input. For whatever reason of your own you've chosen not to do that. No idea why. Unless you're willing to do so, we'll just have to muddle through on our own. It should be noted that canarsie did try to incorporate some of your thoughts w/ his own when he posted above.

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Old Apr 28, 2016, 9:17 pm
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AOPA FORUM will cover it all., for the private flyers, many of us already belong,
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Old Apr 28, 2016, 10:16 pm
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AOPA FORUM will cover it all., for the private flyers, many of us already belong,
They may not be jets, but I have to give you props.
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Old Apr 29, 2016, 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by oenophilist
Well, I included the Signature link because the company is a FBO that operates in general aviation terminals across the globe. If you are talking about VIP services that are typical of (and exclusive to) flying commercial, then it probably still fits in TravelBuzz.
what about other VVIP with tarmac transfer between private terminal and plane?
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Old Apr 29, 2016, 6:09 pm
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Here's a list we're currently working from in the Private Forum. We're also still open to forum names:

Private jets, owned or leased by the individual or business, with maintenance, etc. often outsourced

Private jet shared ownership programs

General rental of private aircraft, with or without crew provided

Private jet charter programs of major carriers, like DL Private Jets, that might or might not carry FF program miles and elite status

Sports charters, etc.

One time charters for private groups, like the MegaDO flights

Charter flights, often in connection with packaged tours (less common now than previously?)

Helicopters (often airport service, so this would belong in destination fora except for discussion of operators that span regions and general issues, plus sightseeing helicopter flights)

Fixed wing sight seeing flights (belongs in destination fora, except for general issues and any interregional operators)

Balloons (general issues only, with remainder in destination fora)

Gliders (general issues, with remainder in destination fora)

Commercial flights into space, any type of vehicle

Flight schools and flying lessons
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Old Apr 29, 2016, 6:34 pm
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Also exoatmospheric flights on rockets and such, including one-way trips to Mars.
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Old Apr 29, 2016, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by nsx
Also exoatmospheric flights on rockets and such, including one-way trips to Mars.
In that case, Alternative Air Travel may not be appropriate.

In all seriousness, I rather don't like the name "Alternative Air Travel."

Not only does it look odd to me, but I also don't think it's readily apparent to a new member skimming through the list of forums what exactly the forum's topic is.

Just off the top of my head, a couple other ideas to spur inspiration:

Non-Scheduled Air Travel
Non-Airline Air Travel
Un-Airline Travel?
Un-Travel?



These aren't proposals per se; they're just something to get people thinking about ideas for what we might call the forum...or to make an argument as to why the proposed "Alternative Air Travel" forum does make sense.
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Old Apr 29, 2016, 9:48 pm
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I have no objections to the forum, per se, but would request the following:

1. private air services associated with a specific location should remain in the appropriate destination forum, especially helicopter services such as one might find in Hawaii or Las Vegas.

2. that the forum users of those private jet services associated with existing airlines that have points plans be polled as to whether they would prefer threads associated with those services be located. Example: Should Lufthansa Private Jet services threads be located in the Lufthansa Forum or the private jet forum?
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