Should TB consider the limited possibility of changing only the Evangelist title?
Jun 18, 2014, 8:10 pm
#16
Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, Mpls & London
Programs: AA & Marriott Perpetual Platinum; DL & HH Gold
Posts: 48,954
An evangelist is someone who talks about something with great enthusiasm, which seems accurate for those of us with 10,000+ posts. If you want to avoid the religious connotations of evangelist here are some possibilities:
Enthusiast, fan, devotee, aficionado, lover, admirer, follower; expert, connoisseur, authority, pundit; buff, bum, freak, fanatic, nut, fiend, addict, maniac; geek,
Enthusiast, fan, devotee, aficionado, lover, admirer, follower; expert, connoisseur, authority, pundit; buff, bum, freak, fanatic, nut, fiend, addict, maniac; geek,
Jun 18, 2014, 8:55 pm
#17
Moderator: Smoking Lounge; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SFO
Programs: Lifetime (for now) Gold MM, HH Gold, Giving Tootsie Pops to UA employees, & a retired hockey goalie
Posts: 28,878
[QUOTE=MSPeconomist]
No. If titles are going to be changed, then I'd rather see something along the lines of what was proposed in CMK10's motion (which voting has not concluded on btw) re: adding different titles at different post counts, not changing just a single title. OK, but then we'll need to reach agreement on not only the levels but the associated titles. Maybe it's better to try baby steps and at least try to fix one little thing first.
Last edited by goalie; Jun 18, 2014 at 9:02 pm
Jun 18, 2014, 8:58 pm
#18
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,609
I will vote for anything, anything that gets rid of the stupid Evangelist title.
Among them:
Change that title.
Change all titles.
Eliminate all titles except those assigned by the CD.
I personally felt strongly enough about this to ask Carol to take that stupid title off of my handle.
Among them:
Change that title.
Change all titles.
Eliminate all titles except those assigned by the CD.
I personally felt strongly enough about this to ask Carol to take that stupid title off of my handle.
Jun 18, 2014, 9:13 pm
#19
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2000
Programs: UA Million Miler (lite). NY Metro area.
Posts: 15,080
I have to tell you that as an oldtimer, you wonder why nobody votes in the TB elections. It's threads like this where newer members come to make fun of TB.
Can some of these conversations get any sillier.
Please send me a PM when there's a serious topic in this forum.
Just my 2 cents; and yes, I'm feeling fine today.
dh
Can some of these conversations get any sillier.
Please send me a PM when there's a serious topic in this forum.
Just my 2 cents; and yes, I'm feeling fine today.
dh
Jun 18, 2014, 9:50 pm
#20
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,609
I have to tell you that as an oldtimer, you wonder why nobody votes in the TB elections. It's threads like this where newer members come to make fun of TB.
Can some of these conversations get any sillier.
Please send me a PM when there's a serious topic in this forum.
Just my 2 cents; and yes, I'm feeling fine today.
dh
Can some of these conversations get any sillier.
Please send me a PM when there's a serious topic in this forum.
Just my 2 cents; and yes, I'm feeling fine today.
dh
From glen to glen, and down the mountain side
The summer's gone, and all the roses falling
It's you, it's you must go and I must bide.
Jun 18, 2014, 10:05 pm
#21
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Durham, NC (RDU/GSO/CLT)
Programs: AA EXP/MM, DL GM, UA Platinum, HH DIA, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Platinum, Marriott Titanium, Hertz PC
Posts: 33,857
Frankly, I want some time before we consider anything. I want to caucus with the other TB members to find out who voted for what and why. I want time to get some input from other Flyertalkers, especially ones whose voices were not heard in the first two threads, and I want to get a new count of who's in favor of this and who isn't. This is a serious, contentious issue and I think this time it requires more time and careful planning. The vote was not nearly the slam dunk some people thought it would be.
Jun 18, 2014, 10:05 pm
#22
Moderator: Smoking Lounge; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SFO
Programs: Lifetime (for now) Gold MM, HH Gold, Giving Tootsie Pops to UA employees, & a retired hockey goalie
Posts: 28,878
I will vote for anything, anything that gets rid of the stupid Evangelist title.
Among them:
Change that title.
Change all titles.
Eliminate all titles except those assigned by the CD.
I personally felt strongly enough about this to ask Carol to take that stupid title off of my handle.
Among them:
Change that title.
Change all titles.
Eliminate all titles except those assigned by the CD.
I personally felt strongly enough about this to ask Carol to take that stupid title off of my handle.
Jun 18, 2014, 10:12 pm
#23
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,609
Win-win?
Jun 18, 2014, 10:19 pm
#24
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Atherton, CA
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP; Owner, Green Bay Packers
Posts: 21,690
Actually, perhaps if everyone who feels like I do simply PM'd Carol and asked to have that stupid, stupid title take off of their profile as I did, then there would be no need for TB action at all. Because those who like the stupid title could still strive for it. Those who don't want to be associated with it would not be subjected to it.
Win-win?
Win-win?
^
This would likely please almost everyone.
Jun 18, 2014, 10:23 pm
#25
Moderator: Smoking Lounge; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SFO
Programs: Lifetime (for now) Gold MM, HH Gold, Giving Tootsie Pops to UA employees, & a retired hockey goalie
Posts: 28,878
[QUOTE=kokonutz]
Members are free to have their title removed by PM'ing the CD but that's not what I'm referring to-it's the willy-nilly "I'll vote for anything" attitude which does a dis-service to the members. What if I proposed a motion to change the evangelist title to "chief cook and miles junkie" (or dare I say even something offensive) and the motion was seconded? That gets rid of the evangelist title so based on what you say, you'd vote in favor of the motion, right? So going back to what I said, your attitude is not a good thing for Flyertalk
Originally Posted by goalieAnd it's an attitude like that brings about bad motions and does not serve the members at all (and not to mention that it doesn't make TalkBoard look good in the eyes of those very same members either).[/quote
Actually, perhaps if everyone who feels like I do simply PM'd Carol and asked to have that stupid, stupid title take off of their profile as I did, then there would be no need for TB action at all. Because those who like the stupid title could still strive for it. Those who don't want to be associated with it would not be subjected to it.
Win-win?
Win-win?
Jun 18, 2014, 10:31 pm
#26
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,609
Members are free to have their title removed by PM'ing the CD but that's not what I'm referring to-it's the willy-nilly "I'll vote for anything" attitude which does a dis-service to the members. What if I proposed a motion to change the evangelist title to "chief cook and miles junkie" (or dare I say even something offensive) and the motion was seconded? That gets rid of the evangelist title so based on what you say, you'd vote in favor of the motion, right? So going back to what I said, your attitude is not a good thing for Flyertalk
Beats stupid 'evangelist'.
Jun 19, 2014, 3:22 am
#27
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR- ish
Programs: MUCCI, BA Blue
Posts: 4,295
An evangelist is someone who talks about something with great enthusiasm, which seems accurate for those of us with 10,000+ posts. If you want to avoid the religious connotations of evangelist here are some possibilities:
Enthusiast, fan, devotee, aficionado, lover, admirer, follower; expert, connoisseur, authority, pundit; buff, bum, freak, fanatic, nut, fiend, addict, maniac; geek,
Enthusiast, fan, devotee, aficionado, lover, admirer, follower; expert, connoisseur, authority, pundit; buff, bum, freak, fanatic, nut, fiend, addict, maniac; geek,
Actually, perhaps if everyone who feels like I do simply PM'd Carol and asked to have that stupid, stupid title take off of their profile as I did, then there would be no need for TB action at all. Because those who like the stupid title could still strive for it. Those who don't want to be associated with it would not be subjected to it.
Win-win?
Win-win?
) but I don't actually think this is a solution. Those of us who dislike the title would still have to read it as other people's CMT and the title would also continue to confuse new members. Not that I'm not saying for a moment that the title should be removed just because a minority of members find it offensive - FT doesn't work that way thank goodness.
Jun 19, 2014, 7:33 am
#28
Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, Mpls & London
Programs: AA & Marriott Perpetual Platinum; DL & HH Gold
Posts: 48,954
If there is confusion it arises because the titles are rare, very few members have one. Changing the name won't fix that unless the new title makes it clear that it is based on message volume. If that's the primary concern I think dieuwer2's suggestion of Flyertalk 10K is worth consideration. However, we already display message count. Would the title change to 20k when I reach 20,000 posts?
Jun 19, 2014, 7:39 am
#29
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Aug 2002
Programs: UALifetimePremierGold, Marriott LifetimeTitanium
Posts: 71,110
Speaking (only for myself) as a TB member I too feel that it's inappropriate to start a public thread re: changing a single title when we still have an open vote. Also, again speaking only for myself, it's something that I think should have been brought up first in the private TB forum.
I do find it a bit ironic that MSP voted down the CMK10 motion saying she didn't want us to vote for something that might be tweaked later, then proceeds to focus on a single title & then when challenged on that says perhaps we can do a new set of post counts/titles & says baby steps
Cheers.
I do find it a bit ironic that MSP voted down the CMK10 motion saying she didn't want us to vote for something that might be tweaked later, then proceeds to focus on a single title & then when challenged on that says perhaps we can do a new set of post counts/titles & says baby steps
Cheers.
Jun 19, 2014, 10:34 am
#30
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2000
Programs: UA Million Miler (lite). NY Metro area.
Posts: 15,080
Only to a few. 
As one of the elite 300
, I'd prefer Big shot instead of my current title. Nice guy works too.
As one of the elite 300
, I'd prefer Big shot instead of my current title. Nice guy works too.
Last edited by dhammer53; Jun 19, 2014 at 10:41 am