Avatars
#46
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
I've always been on the side of a "light touch" for rules (or moderation if you prefer). So if it were decided to expand the use of avators, I would think we would keep the same rules we have today in place for avators (that can already be seen in the user's profile.) Adding more "rules" to limit what is and isn't appropriate just makes for more "administrative" (or moderated) overhead.
#47
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Aug 2002
Programs: UALifetimePremierGold, Marriott LifetimeTitanium
Posts: 71,103
My long term average seems to be about 5 posts per day. I figure I view at least 25 threads a day to find 5 worth replying to. Between new posts and pagination, figure some have one page worth of new replies and some have more... I'll use an average of 2. I'll also assume each user a) has an avatar and b), no two avatars on the same page are alike (i.e. one user has 10 posts on the same page, all displaying the same avatar so the image file only downloads once), and no caching beyond the current page. 30 days * 25 threads * 2 pages * 40 posts * 2.5 kilobytes = a max of 50 megabytes of data traffic a month. Yes, it would probably work out to be less, but I don't feel a need to burn up to 2.5% of my monthly data allowance just to view whatever cute icons people feel compelled to have next to their name. If I want to see someone's avatar/profile picture/whatever, I'll just click their name.
Cheers.
#48
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bye Delta
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Plat, Nat'l Exec Elite, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 16,264
The numbers I posted actually multiply out to 150MB, which would be 7.5% of my iPad's data allowance. Perhaps 50MB will be a more likely figure given adoption rate and multiple posts from the same member on a given page, but either way I don't see the value.
Perhaps if avatar visibility could be off by default, but users could turn it on? Then I wouldn't have a problem with it. I guess I'd be okay with opt-out too, as long as there's a way to easily do so, but I could still see users being put off by this if they don't know how to toggle the setting.
#49
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SGF
Programs: AS, AA, UA, AGR S (former 75K, GLD, 1K, and S+, now an elite peon)
Posts: 23,194
Apparently I shouldn't try to do math at the end of the work day.
The numbers I posted actually multiply out to 150MB, which would be 7.5% of my iPad's data allowance. Perhaps 50MB will be a more likely figure given adoption rate and multiple posts from the same member on a given page, but either way I don't see the value.
Perhaps if avatar visibility could be off by default, but users could turn it on? Then I wouldn't have a problem with it. I guess I'd be okay with opt-out too, as long as there's a way to easily do so, but I could still see users being put off by this if they don't know how to toggle the setting.
The numbers I posted actually multiply out to 150MB, which would be 7.5% of my iPad's data allowance. Perhaps 50MB will be a more likely figure given adoption rate and multiple posts from the same member on a given page, but either way I don't see the value.
Perhaps if avatar visibility could be off by default, but users could turn it on? Then I wouldn't have a problem with it. I guess I'd be okay with opt-out too, as long as there's a way to easily do so, but I could still see users being put off by this if they don't know how to toggle the setting.
FWIW, two forums I was looking at yesterday have tasteful and fairly unobtrusive use of avatars. Sample threads:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...6083-post-icon
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=309065
(FWIW, the former forum is running vBulletin 5.1.0, the latest version--we here on FT are stuck on vB 3.something...)
Here's another take on avatars that I think actually looks nicer:
http://slickdeals.net/f/6836652-best...y-april-6-2014
And another take where some users have opted for an avatar but many haven't:
http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2021998
On balance, though, a site like this one certainly does look clean:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=720465
Many more examples out there. Try looking through the various forums listed at http://www.thebiggestboards.com/ (how a site titled "Diaper Swappers" can beat FlyerTalk leaves me scratching my head about the Internet...). Note I have no affiliation or connection with any of the above sites (I might have once registered for The Straight Dope and/or SlickDeals but, if I did, I only have a couple of posts to my name, if any, on those sites); I found them via searches and just picked example threads from the thread listings.
#50
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bye Delta
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Plat, Nat'l Exec Elite, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 16,264
Yes, I noted in my original post that adoption, caching, and multiple posts from the same user on a page would likely lower the overall size. I really have no idea how iOS handles Safari caching. Either way, I still consider it a waste of bandwidth... if I want to see someone's avatar or profile details, I can easily find it, without wasting screen real estate and bandwidth the other 99.9% of the time when I don't want it.
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...6083-post-icon - This one's not bad
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=309065 - Don't like this one, the avatars are in your face and take up vertical real estate.
(FWIW, the former forum is running vBulletin 5.1.0, the latest version--we here on FT are stuck on vB 3.something...) - Interesting, given who the parent of FlyerTalk and the parent of vBulletin are, no?
Here's another take on avatars that I think actually looks nicer:
http://slickdeals.net/f/6836652-best...y-april-6-2014 - SD isn't too bad either, it's much like the first one
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=309065 - Don't like this one, the avatars are in your face and take up vertical real estate.
(FWIW, the former forum is running vBulletin 5.1.0, the latest version--we here on FT are stuck on vB 3.something...) - Interesting, given who the parent of FlyerTalk and the parent of vBulletin are, no?
Here's another take on avatars that I think actually looks nicer:
http://slickdeals.net/f/6836652-best...y-april-6-2014 - SD isn't too bad either, it's much like the first one
#51
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SGF
Programs: AS, AA, UA, AGR S (former 75K, GLD, 1K, and S+, now an elite peon)
Posts: 23,194
#52
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: n.y.c.
Posts: 13,988
Do whatever you want with avatars as long as there is the ability to hide them.
(Like with signatures -- I can't believe some people don't have them turned off...)
(Like with signatures -- I can't believe some people don't have them turned off...)
#53
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SGF
Programs: AS, AA, UA, AGR S (former 75K, GLD, 1K, and S+, now an elite peon)
Posts: 23,194
Besides, how would you know about the Do I'm hosting in Alaska this summer if you have signatures turned off?
#54
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Benicia CA
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75K, AA 3.8MM, UA 1.1MM, enjoying the retired life
Posts: 31,849
#55
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Durham, NC (RDU/GSO/CLT)
Programs: AA EXP/MM, DL GM, UA Platinum, HH DIA, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Platinum, Marriott Titanium, Hertz PC
Posts: 33,857
#56
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,132
With the upgrade of the site last month, avatars are showing on the mobile skin:
View Screen Capture
View Screen Capture
#57
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
With the upgrade of the site last month, avatars are showing on the mobile skin:
View Screen Capture
View Screen Capture