Motion Passed - Posts Count in All FT Forums
#46
FlyerTalk Evangelist
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For me, I would like to see all posts count just for the trivial purpose of knowing my total number of posts to this community. I really don't care about the "Evangelist" title. But I would be interested to have a more complete picture of my posting history and stats available.
#47
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Yes, I have. I do my best to not make statements here without having obtained backup information first.
There have been periods of time when certain forums have counted and certain times they have not. For example, Omni used to count. When the decision was made to stop counting it, it was as of that day going forward. There was no backward sweep to delete all Omni posts. Further, there was thread corruption from early years on prior platforms. Those threads simply aren't available to be recounted. If TB approves this measure, the count for the specific forums not currently counted will be as of the day that IB throws the controls for them to count. In order to count from inception, IB would have to recount the entire board. I have been told it would be a considerable task. IB understandably has little appetite for this. My personal perspective is that it would have minimal benefit.
There have been periods of time when certain forums have counted and certain times they have not. For example, Omni used to count. When the decision was made to stop counting it, it was as of that day going forward. There was no backward sweep to delete all Omni posts. Further, there was thread corruption from early years on prior platforms. Those threads simply aren't available to be recounted. If TB approves this measure, the count for the specific forums not currently counted will be as of the day that IB throws the controls for them to count. In order to count from inception, IB would have to recount the entire board. I have been told it would be a considerable task. IB understandably has little appetite for this. My personal perspective is that it would have minimal benefit.
#48
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Although I'm sure this will be an unpopular position, I voted against this.
Personally, I'd love to see non-mile/point related fora (such as this one even) not count towards post counts...that'll probably never happen.
I'd also like to see the "lounge threads" not count towards post counts...that'll probably never happen.
I wouldn't be as opposed to the post-count thing if we got rid of post-count based titles...but I don't really see that happening either...
Although most people, I believe, want posts in all fora to count, I've already voted against it on behalf of those that don't want them to count...
BTW - I'll be without regular internet access from now through the 17th - so I probably won't be able to read and reply to many responses on this thread...
Personally, I'd love to see non-mile/point related fora (such as this one even) not count towards post counts...that'll probably never happen.
I'd also like to see the "lounge threads" not count towards post counts...that'll probably never happen.
I wouldn't be as opposed to the post-count thing if we got rid of post-count based titles...but I don't really see that happening either...
Although most people, I believe, want posts in all fora to count, I've already voted against it on behalf of those that don't want them to count...
BTW - I'll be without regular internet access from now through the 17th - so I probably won't be able to read and reply to many responses on this thread...
#49
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I will personally go in and start a dozen new games to inflate my post count if this motion passes. Let's try for 3-4 pages of OMNI Games and dedicate the entire forum to games. Mind you I've never played one of these OMNI Games, but it appears now is the time to start.
#50
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I support keeping the status quo. "There are other non-travel related posts" is like the "talking to someone is a passenger seat is distracting, so don't ban texting while driving" argument." Allowing perfect to be the enemy of the good is a terrible policy.
#51
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Without mentioning other previous discussion and debates, I believe you just undercount all the wisdom in the most recent motion thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/talkb...edit-omni.html
With due respect, my 439 reasons to post in Randy's contest thread are not based on the same reasoning of your counting OMNI posts. It was a contest, in case you forgot. Even though I didn't win, I did play by the rules.
Please allow me to repeat myself with emphases:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/talkb...edit-omni.html
With due respect, my 439 reasons to post in Randy's contest thread are not based on the same reasoning of your counting OMNI posts. It was a contest, in case you forgot. Even though I didn't win, I did play by the rules.
Please allow me to repeat myself with emphases:
#52
 
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Anyway, this is such a minor thing, it really doesn't matter to me and as usual any opinion here is met with .. I don't know what to call it, Rich .. contempt? The thing is I really don't care one way or the other. No matter what the outcome, it's sure to be brought up again by the next talkboard and the one after that and after that and so on ... and in that case, it's not worth getting overly pedantic about it either way.
I guess I don't look at post count the same way as others do. I don't think a huge post count automatically means that persons posts are trusted more or more likely to be correct than others or more likely to be an opinion I would agree with. Quality of posts, to me, is a much more important gauge and there's really no way to accurately measure that here. I think it was tried before and didn't work out.
-David
Last edited by LIH Prem; Jan 5, 2012 at 7:42 pm
#53
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He could've easily put those threads in their own forum. Still, it's in the past and is merely an example of an inconsistent policy.
#54
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Yes, I have. I do my best to not make statements here without having obtained backup information first.
There have been periods of time when certain forums have counted and certain times they have not. For example, Omni used to count. When the decision was made to stop counting it, it was as of that day going forward. There was no backward sweep to delete all Omni posts. Further, there was thread corruption from early years on prior platforms. Those threads simply aren't available to be recounted. If TB approves this measure, the count for the specific forums not currently counted will be as of the day that IB throws the controls for them to count. In order to count from inception, IB would have to recount the entire board. I have been told it would be a considerable task. IB understandably has little appetite for this. My personal perspective is that it would have minimal benefit.
There have been periods of time when certain forums have counted and certain times they have not. For example, Omni used to count. When the decision was made to stop counting it, it was as of that day going forward. There was no backward sweep to delete all Omni posts. Further, there was thread corruption from early years on prior platforms. Those threads simply aren't available to be recounted. If TB approves this measure, the count for the specific forums not currently counted will be as of the day that IB throws the controls for them to count. In order to count from inception, IB would have to recount the entire board. I have been told it would be a considerable task. IB understandably has little appetite for this. My personal perspective is that it would have minimal benefit.
#55
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one letter/word threads = what is the point of having post count? i would maintain there isnt one. and i dont see how you can argue anything else if everyone has post counts of ten million, or whatever the maximum is.
not that i understand this issue to begin with
not that i understand this issue to begin with
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Jan 5, 2012 at 7:59 pm
#56
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have any of the people who want OMNI to count made "negative" comments about the "other forum" being overly social or whatever? at one point i calculated the majority of posts there were in "lounge" forums.
this isnt about the people, but the consistency of dialog.
this isnt about the people, but the consistency of dialog.
#57
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OMNI games and other post-padding schemes are against the FT TOS. So what's the worry?
As with ad-hominem attacks, discussion of moderator actions, or creating threads about other FlyerTalkers, surely such posts are swiftly deleted.
Nothing to see here.
As with ad-hominem attacks, discussion of moderator actions, or creating threads about other FlyerTalkers, surely such posts are swiftly deleted.
Nothing to see here.
#59
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To those of you against Omni posts counting, well, did it really matter to you when they did? I'm pretty sure it was all the counting threads in Omni that caused randy to stop them from counting with no warning or discussion. He must have been bombarded with complaints about them because he was the only mod there at the time. He just didnt have time, nor the stomach, to deal with all the people spending the day counting.
Can you point out another major board where they don't count?
Can you point out another major board where they don't count?
#60
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Can you point out another major board where they have counting games?
(seriously - you know me, Mary - I'm not just trying to be funny here...are there other boards that have counting games such as this & award titles for post counts? If there are, I just don't know about them or frequent them, I guess).
(seriously - you know me, Mary - I'm not just trying to be funny here...are there other boards that have counting games such as this & award titles for post counts? If there are, I just don't know about them or frequent them, I guess).