Request for a Seattle Forum
Jan 12, 2012, 10:00 am
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And therein lies the argument against fragmenting forums more than necessary. The fact that the West forum is already not a high-volume forum means that there's not really a need to fragment it. And keeping it as is (including keeping OR/WA/ID) means that topics could still get air-time in front of and feedback from those who may have something to add but who may not go out of their way to seek them out.
To sum it up, after mulling on this issue a bit more, I am not actually convinced that this entire process is a positive move and think that the status quo may actually represent the most productive way to keep discussion stirred up in the forum.
And therein lies the argument against fragmenting forums more than necessary. The fact that the West forum is already not a high-volume forum means that there's not really a need to fragment it. And keeping it as is (including keeping OR/WA/ID) means that topics could still get air-time in front of and feedback from those who may have something to add but who may not go out of their way to seek them out.
To sum it up, after mulling on this issue a bit more, I am not actually convinced that this entire process is a positive move and think that the status quo may actually represent the most productive way to keep discussion stirred up in the forum.
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Jan 12, 2012, 7:29 pm
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On the topic of west.. I wouldn't know what would be in the forum.. certainly I wouldn't think Seattle would be part of the West Forum.. Now Pacific Northwest rings a bell.. even Disneyland forum would work wonders.. not suggesting that we start creating a ton of forums, but I grew up knowing that the Pacific Northwest was a specific region of the US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Northwest
Pacific Northwest
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the region that includes parts of Canada and the United States. For the U.S.-only region, see Northwestern United States.
The Pacific Northwest from space
The Pacific Northwest, also known as Cascadia [1] [2] is a region in northwestern North America, bounded by the Pacific Ocean to the west and, loosely, by the Rocky Mountains on the east. Definitions of the region vary and there is no commonly agreed upon boundary, even among Pacific Northwesterners.[3] A common concept of the Pacific Northwest includes the U.S. states of Oregon, Washington and Idaho, as well as the Canadian province of British Columbia and territory of the Yukon.[4] This definition is often restricted further to include only the coastal areas west of the crest of the Cascade Mountains and Canadian Coast Mountains. Broader definitions of the region may even include the state of Alaska. [5] and may reach east to the Rocky Mountains.[4] Definitions based on the historic Oregon Country reach east to the Continental Divide, thus including nearly all of Idaho and parts of western Montana and western Wyoming. Sometimes the Pacific Northwest is defined as being the Northwestern United States, wholly in the United States. Often these definitions are made by government agencies whose scope is limited to the United States.[6] Some definitions include, in addition to Washington, Oregon, and British Columbia, Southeast Alaska, western Montana, the coast of northern California and a small part of northwestern Wyoming.[7] The term "Pacific Northwest" should not be confused with the Northwest Territory (also known as the Great Northwest, a historic term in the United States) or the Northwest Territories of Canada.
The term Northwest Coast is often used when referring only to the coastal regions. The term Northwest Plateau has been used to describe the inland regions, although they are commonly referred to as "the Interior" in British Columbia[8] and the Inland Empire in the United States.
The region's largest metropolitan areas are Seattle/Tacoma, Washington, with 3.3 million people;[9] Vancouver, British Columbia, with 2.3 million people;[10] and the Portland metropolitan area, with 2.2 million people.[11]
A key aspect of the Pacific Northwest is the US–Canada international border, which was established when the region was largely unsettled by non-indigenous peoples. The border along the 49th parallel and the Alaska Panhandle has had a powerful effect on the region. According to Canadian historian Ken Coates, the border has not merely influenced the Pacific Northwest—rather, "the region's history and character have been determined by the boundary".[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Northwest
Pacific Northwest
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the region that includes parts of Canada and the United States. For the U.S.-only region, see Northwestern United States.
The Pacific Northwest from space
The Pacific Northwest, also known as Cascadia [1] [2] is a region in northwestern North America, bounded by the Pacific Ocean to the west and, loosely, by the Rocky Mountains on the east. Definitions of the region vary and there is no commonly agreed upon boundary, even among Pacific Northwesterners.[3] A common concept of the Pacific Northwest includes the U.S. states of Oregon, Washington and Idaho, as well as the Canadian province of British Columbia and territory of the Yukon.[4] This definition is often restricted further to include only the coastal areas west of the crest of the Cascade Mountains and Canadian Coast Mountains. Broader definitions of the region may even include the state of Alaska. [5] and may reach east to the Rocky Mountains.[4] Definitions based on the historic Oregon Country reach east to the Continental Divide, thus including nearly all of Idaho and parts of western Montana and western Wyoming. Sometimes the Pacific Northwest is defined as being the Northwestern United States, wholly in the United States. Often these definitions are made by government agencies whose scope is limited to the United States.[6] Some definitions include, in addition to Washington, Oregon, and British Columbia, Southeast Alaska, western Montana, the coast of northern California and a small part of northwestern Wyoming.[7] The term "Pacific Northwest" should not be confused with the Northwest Territory (also known as the Great Northwest, a historic term in the United States) or the Northwest Territories of Canada.
The term Northwest Coast is often used when referring only to the coastal regions. The term Northwest Plateau has been used to describe the inland regions, although they are commonly referred to as "the Interior" in British Columbia[8] and the Inland Empire in the United States.
The region's largest metropolitan areas are Seattle/Tacoma, Washington, with 3.3 million people;[9] Vancouver, British Columbia, with 2.3 million people;[10] and the Portland metropolitan area, with 2.2 million people.[11]
A key aspect of the Pacific Northwest is the US–Canada international border, which was established when the region was largely unsettled by non-indigenous peoples. The border along the 49th parallel and the Alaska Panhandle has had a powerful effect on the region. According to Canadian historian Ken Coates, the border has not merely influenced the Pacific Northwest—rather, "the region's history and character have been determined by the boundary".[4]
Jan 12, 2012, 10:10 pm
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Jan 12, 2012, 10:24 pm
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"Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nevada (See the sub-forums within for Las Vegas), New Mexico, North Dakota, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, Wyoming"
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Jan 13, 2012, 10:44 am
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It suddenly dawned to me that
BC really is part of the Northwest no matter what people think. Besides having lived in the NW for 41 years including one year in Bellingham, I suddenly came to the realization the Point Roberts, WA actually can only be reached by land by transiting British Columbia.
This includes two immigration and custom checks. If you are doubters, please check out Point Roberts.
Additionally, often companies in Southern British Columbia actually use the U.S. Postal service because it is faster than Canada Post in cross border shipments. Recently I dealt with a company in Burnaby who ship from Blaine for this reason. Not only is it cheaper to take stuff across the border but also much faster.
Perhaps someone should talk with Fredd who actually lives on the border if there are doubters that the Pacific Northwest includes southern British Columbia.
I note that some of the strongest doubters do not live in either country. Local knowledge should trump guessing. I happen to know that Great Britain includes Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland. If there was enough support for such a division, I'd support that decision.
I appeal for you to listen to those of us who have local knowledge. I support a Pacific Northwest Forum preferably including BC.
This includes two immigration and custom checks. If you are doubters, please check out Point Roberts.
Additionally, often companies in Southern British Columbia actually use the U.S. Postal service because it is faster than Canada Post in cross border shipments. Recently I dealt with a company in Burnaby who ship from Blaine for this reason. Not only is it cheaper to take stuff across the border but also much faster.
Perhaps someone should talk with Fredd who actually lives on the border if there are doubters that the Pacific Northwest includes southern British Columbia.
I note that some of the strongest doubters do not live in either country. Local knowledge should trump guessing. I happen to know that Great Britain includes Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland. If there was enough support for such a division, I'd support that decision.
I appeal for you to listen to those of us who have local knowledge. I support a Pacific Northwest Forum preferably including BC.
Jan 13, 2012, 11:17 am
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Cascadia
Cascadia is the proposed name for a bioregional political entity and/or an independent nation located within the Cascadian bioregion of the Pacific Northwest of North America. Proposed boundaries differ, with some drawn along existing political state and provincial lines, and others drawn along larger ecological, cultural and economic boundaries.
The nation would be created by secession of British Columbia from Canada, along with Oregon, Washington and portions of other states from the United States. At its maximum extent Cascadia would extend from the coastal Alaskan Panhandle to the north, extending into Northern California in the south, and inland to include parts of the Yukon, Idaho, Wyoming and Western Montana.
As measured only by the combination of present B.C., Washington and Oregon statistics, Cascadia would be home to 15 million people, and an economy generating more than $750 billion worth of goods and services annually, which would place Cascadia in the top 20 economies of the world.[2] Its largest city, Seattle, itself has an economy slightly smaller than Thailand, but larger than Colombia and Venezuela.[3] By land area Cascadia would be the 20th largest nation in the world, with a land area of 1,384,588 km˛ (534,572 sq mi), placing it right behind Mongolia. By population, Cascadia would rank as the 65th largest, just above Malawi and just below Niger in population, or about the size of Sweden and Finland's population combined.
Jan 13, 2012, 7:46 pm
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This native's opinion: ^ Cascadia ^
It's descriptive without being exclusive, which is especially helpful when talking about land connections among and daytrips out of the three cities. PDX is a daytrip from Seattlite, but so is YVR. Mount St. Helens is a day trip from either SEA and PDX. FWIW, the Amtrak line from Eugene to Vancouver is called ... wait for it ... The Cascades. It's not a leap to name an FT travel region 'Cascadia'.
It's descriptive without being exclusive, which is especially helpful when talking about land connections among and daytrips out of the three cities. PDX is a daytrip from Seattlite, but so is YVR. Mount St. Helens is a day trip from either SEA and PDX. FWIW, the Amtrak line from Eugene to Vancouver is called ... wait for it ... The Cascades. It's not a leap to name an FT travel region 'Cascadia'.
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Jan 13, 2012, 8:03 pm
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Cascadia is appropriate. I think YVR is closer culturally and economically to SEA and PDX than YYZ.
How about the State of Jefferson for those of us in southern Cascadia
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How about the State of Jefferson for those of us in southern Cascadia
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Jan 13, 2012, 8:08 pm
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Most of my family are natives of the Dakotas. They seem to refer to themselves as being from the Midwest though maybe they think of themselves as from the Plains.
Jan 13, 2012, 8:10 pm
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Jan 13, 2012, 9:33 pm
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Cascadia of the Pacific Northwest.. has a nice ring to it..
I have no clue if its politically correct.
I have no clue if its politically correct.
Jan 15, 2012, 11:00 am
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Well, my AAA membership is with the Mountain West region--Alaska, Montana, and Wyoming.
Scary to think I live in the biggest city served by that division.
Scary to think I live in the biggest city served by that division.
Jan 15, 2012, 9:38 pm
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Well, my AAA membership is with the Mountain West region--Alaska, Montana, and Wyoming.
Scary to think I live in the biggest city served by that division.
Scary to think I live in the biggest city served by that division.
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