Was op-uped in web check in on a flight that still has plenty space
Jun 5, 2009, 4:09 pm
#1
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Was op-uped in web check in on a flight that still has plenty space
Expert flyer showing '9,9,9..." and they are still selling economy saver tickets. ZRH-PVG
Happy of course but dont understand why they are doing this.
Happy of course but dont understand why they are doing this.
Last edited by seaskybound; Jun 5, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Jun 5, 2009, 5:06 pm
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The fllights nowadays are heavily oversold in Y. So even if it shows Y9, B9, the flight might be oversold in economy already.
I got an opup to JNB last week as well, even though flight showed up Y9, B9, M9 etc. empty in Y.
I got an opup to JNB last week as well, even though flight showed up Y9, B9, M9 etc. empty in Y.
Jun 6, 2009, 1:57 am
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How does a web check-in look like? Any special message or are you just able to choose a seat in the business section?
Jun 6, 2009, 2:41 am
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Jun 6, 2009, 5:41 am
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Spoke to a purser on a TATL flight in LH where we have been the first two passengers in F (already the 4th flight with nobody else in F this year, on ZRH-DXB yesterday there was a total of 3 out of 12, HKG-FRA 6 out of 16 and FRA-BKK 8 out for 16 - not good for the airlines).
He told me that most of the C passengers are upgrades and only very few are on a paid C ticket. Most airlines are now selling Eco tickets as long as there is Space in Business and upgrade to generate at least some revenue.
He told me that most of the C passengers are upgrades and only very few are on a paid C ticket. Most airlines are now selling Eco tickets as long as there is Space in Business and upgrade to generate at least some revenue.
Jun 6, 2009, 11:52 am
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Interesting to hear that web check-in is able to do op-ups, I had always thought that this would not work and they'd give you a new BP at the gate if you check in through the web. Good news ^
Jun 6, 2009, 12:29 pm
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Spoke to a purser on a TATL flight in LH where we have been the first two passengers in F (already the 4th flight with nobody else in F this year, on ZRH-DXB yesterday there was a total of 3 out of 12, HKG-FRA 6 out of 16 and FRA-BKK 8 out for 16 - not good for the airlines).
He told me that most of the C passengers are upgrades and only very few are on a paid C ticket. Most airlines are now selling Eco tickets as long as there is Space in Business and upgrade to generate at least some revenue.
He told me that most of the C passengers are upgrades and only very few are on a paid C ticket. Most airlines are now selling Eco tickets as long as there is Space in Business and upgrade to generate at least some revenue.
Jun 6, 2009, 12:33 pm
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Spoke to a purser on a TATL flight in LH where we have been the first two passengers in F (already the 4th flight with nobody else in F this year, on ZRH-DXB yesterday there was a total of 3 out of 12, HKG-FRA 6 out of 16 and FRA-BKK 8 out for 16 - not good for the airlines).
I find it very hard to find first class award seat on many LH flights even thought plenty of seats are still not occupied or revenue reserved
Jun 6, 2009, 6:43 pm
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This is my 2nd ZRH-PVG op-up in a row (If I recall correctly I do this route a lot) both were web check in up-ops, I guess when they know for sure that opups are going to happen they get the ball moving. F had 2 people, C was 80% full, Y was very full but still had a few seats left. Not bad for a lowly FTL
Jun 7, 2009, 3:47 am
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As HON you should ask the hotline to get the for you. Even if there is no O availability they can usually confirm you on a flight with lots of empty seats.
Jun 20, 2009, 3:44 am
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I am curious about the fare basis of your ticket. I am flying to TLV in early July, fare basis QICWEBIA outbound and LICWEBIA inbound. What are my chances for an opup?
Jun 20, 2009, 10:14 am
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Your fare basis should not matter. Your SENhood does though. Make sure it's in the system if you intend to credit to a different FFP.
Jun 26, 2009, 2:19 pm
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I do indeed intend to credit the flight to UA. How do I get my SEN number in the system while crediting to UA? Do I just call Swiss and ask them to make a note of my SEN status?
Jun 26, 2009, 3:16 pm
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And why do LH and LX don't release more first class award seats on their international flight as they have plenty of empty seats these days.
I find it very hard to find first class award seat on many LH flights even thought plenty of seats are still not occupied or revenue reserved
I find it very hard to find first class award seat on many LH flights even thought plenty of seats are still not occupied or revenue reserved
