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Please add all your suggestions since implementation, August 9:
  1. Modify Like button to take up less real estate - ie, put the button w/ the other buttons & likes under signatures or list only if hover
  2. Allow members to completely turn off the ability to see likes
  3. Use Helpful instead of Like



"Some FTers are supportive of like/helpful button. Some are not. Some on both sides of the issue have questions, concerns and/or need more info. This wiki attempts to highlight them in bullet format/"cliff notes" version from the 566 posts made in prior Talkboard thread, which had 700 posts. More detailed information regarding the pros/cons/questions/concerns/info can be garnered by reading the entire thread, where FTers on both sides of the like/helpful button have been eloquent/provided valuable input. When TalkBoard last polled FT members, the result of the poll was in favour of introducing likes (by a considerable margin)

Pros:
* Make Flyertalk more modern/more like Facebook, LinkedIn and many other social media sites
* A like/helpful button would minimize unnecessary replies such as +1.
* Streamlines posts
* The value add of showing likes, helpful votes, etc. is that it can surface good content and get more views for it
* Positive feedback incentivizes quality content/FTers will post more
* Some people won’t take time to write a thank you but will post a like
* Those with more likes/helpfuls are considered knowledgable

Cons:
* Makes Flyertalk more like Facebook/dumbs it down
* FT had rating system here years ago and it did not go well
* System can be gamed/cliques develop
* Clutters up posts/takes up valuable screen space
* Will not eliminate +1s/+1s also provide positive feedback
* Posts that have inaccurate info can also get likes/doesn't mean poster is knowledgable
* If FTers post info & it doesn't get likes/helpfuls, less incentive to post more
* Some who might have posted info in the past will now just post like, so less information provided to other FTers.

Questions, concerns about how it will work, and/or information based on brief internal trial already done (trial done last time it came up for discussion)
* If implemented, can FTers who prefer not to utilize the like/helpful button turn it off so that they don't see it at all?
* Is there a software way to separate likes of posts from posters? (Limited trial indicates no; don't know if software can be changed to do so)
* Can a post/day count be implemented before implementing for FTers, similar Omni/CC? (Yes)
* Can certain forums have it turned off such as Omni? (No, current software is it's either all forums or none)
* If a sitewide trial is created, what are the metrics for success or failure?
* What is the goal of this/how will the data be used?
* If customization of current software is required, will this take away from development on other projects such as a better mobile app?
* Will or can there be a dislike/unhelpful button?
* What happens if a post that is "liked" gets its content edited and ends up having a different meaning than it initially had at the time the post was "liked"?
* Can threads or individual posts deemed helpful be bookmarked/saved?"

IBobi responded to theses comments and questions here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28664495-post59.html
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Old May 1, 17, 2:20 pm   #1
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Like button (Suggestion FT add Like button)[goes live 9 August]

Can you implement a like button at the very least? Plenty of other forums have the and all sorts of other buttons such as: disagree, funny, informative, excellent topic, dislike, old.

We have all this other social media stuff so it makes perfect sense to implement this.
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Old May 1, 17, 5:00 pm   #2
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It's been suggested many times but no community consensus has ever been reached that it is desired.
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Old May 1, 17, 6:49 pm   #3
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It's been suggested many times but no community consensus has ever been reached that it is desired.
TalkBoard is no more, so maybe we can take a fresh look at this.
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As this fits in the Suggestion Box forum better than the Technical Support area, we are moving it there.

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I would go for a like button, but for heaven's sake, no dislike button.

We tried it once before and it did not work out well at all.
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Here is the thread from TB Topics:

"Like" Button?
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Please, let's not go there. It has been a big problem on MilePoint/InsideFlyer.
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It has been a big problem on MilePoint/InsideFlyer.
Can you back that assertion up? That hasn't at all been my experience.
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Please, let's not go there. It has been a big problem on MilePoint/InsideFlyer.
Seems to work well on other forums I visit. I would be interested to know how big a problem a like button can actually cause on the anonymous internet !
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A like button is perfectly fine. It's the dislike, or any other negative emoticon that would be abused. And yes, it would be abused.
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I would support a Like button. I would not support a dislike button. I also would not support being able to see how many "likes" a member has received. We've had too many instances of folks trying to game ratings over the years.

Let me see what Internet Brands can do.

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How many more "+1" do we see here compared to "-1"??

So I would also support a 'Like' button.
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While I was against a like button in the last "go-around" , if it could be a like button showing the total number of likes but not showing the handles of the members who liked the posts, I could be persuaded to like having a like button
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I would not support seeing the number of likes. Only that it's liked.

Do you remember when the rating system was accidentally turned on along with the ability to see who gave the rating? The less ability to give people the chance to abuse, the better
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While I was against a like button in the last "go-around" , if it could be a like button showing the total number of likes but not showing the handles of the members who liked the posts, I could be persuaded to like having a like button
You're one of the most like-happy people I know on Facebook. I'm trying to understand what your concept and opposition to a similar implementation here is. Can you expand?

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I would not support seeing the number of likes. Only that it's liked.

Do you remember when the rating system was accidentally turned on along with the ability to see who gave the rating? The less ability to give people the chance to abuse, the better
Like button != rating system

Without the ability to rate a post negatively, where is the danger of abuse?
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