Which Starwood in Paris? [Master Thread]
#166
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SFO/SJC
Posts: 247
Has anyone stayed at hotel Bel Ami in saint germain des pres? they have a fairly cheap rate right now for early August, 212 EUR with breakfast, and location seems great. Thinking of doing that instead of other SPG and Marriott options (was thinking between Le Dokhans or Renaissance Republique, about the same rate or combo of rate/points), but this seems like a good deal because of where the hotel is located and it seems boutique/chic one. Not Gold or Plat so it's doesn't matter that Design Hotels only give limited recognition to SPG members.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
#167
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: AS, DL
Posts: 278
The Bel Ami is a great hotel, very well located in the St. Germain des Pres neighborhood. Very lively at night with plenty of bars and restaurants nearby. Stayed there for a week a couple months ago.
#168
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: Nomad
Posts: 17
La Maison Champs Elysees
I stayed at the La Maison Champs Elysees for the past few nights. Since I had not seen a review on FT, I figured I would post some of my thoughts here.
- Location is probably the best part of staying at this hotel, since it's conveniently located close to the Arc de Triomphe, and the Eiffel Tower is also in walking distance. However, overall I think the experience was pretty lackluster and disappointed in my history of staying at SPG hotels.
- Even though our room got upgraded upon check-in, there were some really basic items (iron, moisturizer) that were not included in the room.
- The interior decor was pretty hit and miss for me. While some of the design language was pretty modern (the entrance is also pretty impressive), there were some items that gave me the feel of how cheap the room is. The trash can was a bag, the bathroom had a black/white color scheme which for me makes it difficult to feel clean (though I did not have any experience with the bathroom explicitly not being clean).
- The reception missed a wake up call. First time that's ever happened to me.
#169
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
Taking a GF for her first trip to Paris. Seems like the top choice here is the PdG. How do they treat Plats? Is it worth significantly more than the Marriott C-E?
Thanks!
Thanks!
#170
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,192
As plat at PDG, we were upgraded to nice suite. There were no plat drinks. We only got continental breakfast. Overall we enjoyed PDG. The only thing we didn't like was how bad breakfast was - even the buffet that a plat has to upgrade too was underwhelming. We were actually surprised how bad it was w minimal choice. But we would stay there again
#171
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Newton Centre, MA, USA
Programs: DL 2MM Gold, AA Plat Pro; Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium (via SPG), IHG Plat
Posts: 2,192
Admittedly we were at the PDG several years ago, but we thought the upgraded breakfast while expensive was very good.
#172
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: ATL
Programs: SPG, DL
Posts: 307
As plat at PDG, we were upgraded to nice suite. There were no plat drinks. We only got continental breakfast. Overall we enjoyed PDG. The only thing we didn't like was how bad breakfast was - even the buffet that a plat has to upgrade too was underwhelming. We were actually surprised how bad it was w minimal choice. But we would stay there again
#173
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, AA Gold MM, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,770
I have not stayed at PdG since renovation. But I would consider PdG the best SPG hotel option in Paris.
#174
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QR GLD; Bonvoy LT TIT
Posts: 12,753
As plat at PDG, we were upgraded to nice suite. There were no plat drinks. We only got continental breakfast. Overall we enjoyed PDG. The only thing we didn't like was how bad breakfast was - even the buffet that a plat has to upgrade too was underwhelming. We were actually surprised how bad it was w minimal choice. But we would stay there again
I, too, was disappointed with breakfast. As PLT, I, too, had access to the continental. But the way they do it at PdG, you go to the regular breakfast buffet but are restricted from items which are not considered part of the continental breakfast. As in, "I'm sorry, sir, you cannot have that unless you want to pay additional." One nice waitress there let me take smoked salmon when no one was looking on two of the mornings. I didn't care for the way that it was executed and handled. And I agree that even the full breakfast was nothing spectacular or even out of the ordinary. That said, I am undoubtedly spoiled by the expansive breakfast buffets which are standard in SEAsia. Nevertheless, I found breakfast disappointing.
#175
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,192
Agree - the suites were are little small (especially w little SPGLTP with us) but were so well appointed that we liked the suite overall. But definitely tight w kids.
The sweets theybhave at night were fabulous. I'm not sure if they gave because we plat, in a suite, had a few minor service issues or comes standard but they were great.
I think we both spoiled w SEA buffets. Can't wait to get back to SGS or PA.
The sweets theybhave at night were fabulous. I'm not sure if they gave because we plat, in a suite, had a few minor service issues or comes standard but they were great.
I think we both spoiled w SEA buffets. Can't wait to get back to SGS or PA.
#176
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 92
Hey guys,
Heading to Paris next May and looking for suggestions as to what hotel. Will have Platinum status by the time we leave for the trip.
We've narrowed it down to these 3, staying 5 nights to get 5th night free. SPG point amounts have 5th night free factored in already:
W Paris - 16,000 SPG per night
Les Bains - 16,000 SPG per night
Westin Paris - 16,000 SPG per night
Le Dokhan's - 12,800 SPG per night
Also open to transferring SPG:Marriott if the Marriott hotels are better. Preferably one with a lounge. Are kids allowed in the lounge?
If anyone has stayed at these hotels, advice is much appreciated. We will have two infants (aged 2 and 1) with us as well. So maybe consider kidfriendliness too. Thanks!
Heading to Paris next May and looking for suggestions as to what hotel. Will have Platinum status by the time we leave for the trip.
We've narrowed it down to these 3, staying 5 nights to get 5th night free. SPG point amounts have 5th night free factored in already:
W Paris - 16,000 SPG per night
Les Bains - 16,000 SPG per night
Westin Paris - 16,000 SPG per night
Le Dokhan's - 12,800 SPG per night
Also open to transferring SPG:Marriott if the Marriott hotels are better. Preferably one with a lounge. Are kids allowed in the lounge?
If anyone has stayed at these hotels, advice is much appreciated. We will have two infants (aged 2 and 1) with us as well. So maybe consider kidfriendliness too. Thanks!
#177
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador and LTT, UA Plat/LT Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 8,764
Hey guys,
Heading to Paris next May and looking for suggestions as to what hotel. Will have Platinum status by the time we leave for the trip.
We've narrowed it down to these 3, staying 5 nights to get 5th night free. SPG point amounts have 5th night free factored in already:
W Paris - 16,000 SPG per night
Les Bains - 16,000 SPG per night
Westin Paris - 16,000 SPG per night
Le Dokhan's - 12,800 SPG per night
Also open to transferring SPG:Marriott if the Marriott hotels are better. Preferably one with a lounge. Are kids allowed in the lounge?
If anyone has stayed at these hotels, advice is much appreciated. We will have two infants (aged 2 and 1) with us as well. So maybe consider kidfriendliness too. Thanks!
Heading to Paris next May and looking for suggestions as to what hotel. Will have Platinum status by the time we leave for the trip.
We've narrowed it down to these 3, staying 5 nights to get 5th night free. SPG point amounts have 5th night free factored in already:
W Paris - 16,000 SPG per night
Les Bains - 16,000 SPG per night
Westin Paris - 16,000 SPG per night
Le Dokhan's - 12,800 SPG per night
Also open to transferring SPG:Marriott if the Marriott hotels are better. Preferably one with a lounge. Are kids allowed in the lounge?
If anyone has stayed at these hotels, advice is much appreciated. We will have two infants (aged 2 and 1) with us as well. So maybe consider kidfriendliness too. Thanks!
We love both hotels. The PdG is the more luxurious and only proper luxury option between all SPG and Marriott options IMO. But the Westin is in the better location for us. We walked over twice to the Vendome while staying at the PdG last month, and it was only 20-25 min. But with kids, I’d doubt that would be wise. Pick the area that most interests you. Neither has a club or lounge.
If you want to maximize your SPG points, you could transfer and stay at the Renaissance Arc de Triomphe, Renaissance Vendome, or maybe Renaissance Le Parc Trocadero depending on which area you prefer. You may get a deal depending on the relative number of points. Not sure. But remember that Marriott Plat doesn’t go as far as SPG Plat. I’ve been treated very well by the Westin, always upgraded, so I prefer it over the Renaissance options. But the Renaissance Arc de Triomphe is supposed to be pretty nice (and definitely the nicest of the Marriott options).
#178
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 92
We’ve only stayed at the Westin (many times) and the PdG (just last month). They are the only two at which you’re likely to get any available Platinum upgrade, certainly to a junior suite at the Westin or to a Mosaic suite at the PdG. The other hotels are Design Hotels, which may or may not upgrade you a room category but have no obligation to do much beyond that (including breakfast).
We love both hotels. The PdG is the more luxurious and only proper luxury option between all SPG and Marriott options IMO. But the Westin is in the better location for us. We walked over twice to the Vendome while staying at the PdG last month, and it was only 20-25 min. But with kids, I’d doubt that would be wise. Pick the area that most interests you. Neither has a club or lounge.
If you want to maximize your SPG points, you could transfer and stay at the Renaissance Arc de Triomphe, Renaissance Vendome, or maybe Renaissance Le Parc Trocadero depending on which area you prefer. You may get a deal depending on the relative number of points. Not sure. But remember that Marriott Plat doesn’t go as far as SPG Plat. I’ve been treated very well by the Westin, always upgraded, so I prefer it over the Renaissance options. But the Renaissance Arc de Triomphe is supposed to be pretty nice (and definitely the nicest of the Marriott options).
We love both hotels. The PdG is the more luxurious and only proper luxury option between all SPG and Marriott options IMO. But the Westin is in the better location for us. We walked over twice to the Vendome while staying at the PdG last month, and it was only 20-25 min. But with kids, I’d doubt that would be wise. Pick the area that most interests you. Neither has a club or lounge.
If you want to maximize your SPG points, you could transfer and stay at the Renaissance Arc de Triomphe, Renaissance Vendome, or maybe Renaissance Le Parc Trocadero depending on which area you prefer. You may get a deal depending on the relative number of points. Not sure. But remember that Marriott Plat doesn’t go as far as SPG Plat. I’ve been treated very well by the Westin, always upgraded, so I prefer it over the Renaissance options. But the Renaissance Arc de Triomphe is supposed to be pretty nice (and definitely the nicest of the Marriott options).
#180
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 120
Does anyone have any thoughts on which properties to look at for more of a local/authentic feel? Will be staying in Paris in June for 3 nights and am hoping to find something that will add to the experience rather than just being another chain hotel.
I am Marriott/SPG Gold so I know I won't get much in Elite recognition, but was thinking the Design Hotels might be the way to go. I had ranked them in the following order based on what I found so far, but would appreciate anyone's expertise on how they really compare to each other. Added in the other contenders from Marriott for reference to what I was thinking.
Hotel Vernet
Le Roch
De Nell
De Berri (New Property, wildcard)
W Paris
Le Metro / Le Dokahn / Bel Ami
Ren Republique
Westin
Opera Ambassador
Ren Vendome
I am Marriott/SPG Gold so I know I won't get much in Elite recognition, but was thinking the Design Hotels might be the way to go. I had ranked them in the following order based on what I found so far, but would appreciate anyone's expertise on how they really compare to each other. Added in the other contenders from Marriott for reference to what I was thinking.
Hotel Vernet
Le Roch
De Nell
De Berri (New Property, wildcard)
W Paris
Le Metro / Le Dokahn / Bel Ami
Ren Republique
Westin
Opera Ambassador
Ren Vendome