Westin St. Francis, San Francisco [Master Thread]
#61
Join Date: Dec 2001
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I stayed at this hotel Christmas Eve and I have to say while its nice, I wasn't overly impressed. We were in a nice room but the furnishings were a little old and the bathroom seemed grungy.
We didn't connect to the internet so I can't tell you about the cost, but parking was definitely outrageous. At least I got SPG points for it.
Enjoy your trip.
We didn't connect to the internet so I can't tell you about the cost, but parking was definitely outrageous. At least I got SPG points for it.
Enjoy your trip.
#63
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It's a historical hotel which means: classic.
It's not a modern Westin. You will, however, find standard Westin amenities with a pretty good view in some rooms.
However, it is in the middle of Union Square--shopping district, so expect MAD people
If you could stay elsewhere, I would stay at W San Francisco or St Regis SF. They are both on 3rd which is in a much quieter area next to SF MOMA but you are still close to everything.
Another good choice by embarcadero is Hotel Vitale--Plasma TV on the wall with huge rainfall shower in the bathroom ^ and you get front row ocean view of the bay and bay bridge ^. The only downside is that it's not a SPG hotel so the beds are not as comfortable
It's not a modern Westin. You will, however, find standard Westin amenities with a pretty good view in some rooms.
However, it is in the middle of Union Square--shopping district, so expect MAD people
If you could stay elsewhere, I would stay at W San Francisco or St Regis SF. They are both on 3rd which is in a much quieter area next to SF MOMA but you are still close to everything.
Another good choice by embarcadero is Hotel Vitale--Plasma TV on the wall with huge rainfall shower in the bathroom ^ and you get front row ocean view of the bay and bay bridge ^. The only downside is that it's not a SPG hotel so the beds are not as comfortable
#64
Join Date: Nov 2003
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I was at the St. Francis a couple of times in the 4Q of 2005. I thought it was fine, as long as you stay in the Tower rather than the "historic" building. I think the internet deal included free domestic phone calls for about $16/day. The room was good size and I had a great view(I am Plat) of the Bay Bridge. Not a spectactular hotel but very nice in a good area of town for shopping and getting around. I agree that the W is much more modern and very well run, but it is a W with all that entails.
#65
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Definitely stay in the tower rooms--mostly recently renovated, considerably larger than the 'historic building' ones. Internet is free in public spaces as well as across the street in Union Square, if it's a nice day, great to grab a drink and sit out there.
#66
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Originally Posted by BlissWorld
It's a historical hotel which means: classic.
It's not a modern Westin. You will, however, find standard Westin amenities with a pretty good view in some rooms.
It's not a modern Westin. You will, however, find standard Westin amenities with a pretty good view in some rooms.
The Suites seem to have amazing views BTW. Good Luck
-Vincent
#67
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Searching for anything with "St." in the title is problematic. I always get an error message. Leave that phrase out of the search and it'll yield better results.
#68
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I don't know if you have any status but a Platinum may be able to get a junior suite in the historic side. Otherwise, you definitely should get a room at the Towers. I have seen the classic rooms in the historic side. They are really small (esp the bathroom).
#69
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I'll have to dissent a bit here.
I always go for the Union Square view rooms in the classic old hotel. I love the view, and the rooms are always large. These are the rooms that make this hotel unique.
Now, I am not very familiar with the rooms that may be lurking back in the darker corners of the old hotel. But the Union Square rooms in the old part of the hotel are great.
I always go for the Union Square view rooms in the classic old hotel. I love the view, and the rooms are always large. These are the rooms that make this hotel unique.
Now, I am not very familiar with the rooms that may be lurking back in the darker corners of the old hotel. But the Union Square rooms in the old part of the hotel are great.
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Westin St. Francis - Recent Stay Advice...
I recently stayed at the Westin St. Francis and has a less than fantastic time.
1. I was "upgraded" to a tradional room. No a major issues. I don't expect upgrades, I understand hotels get sold out.
2. Internet did not work due to physical technical difficulties, fixed it then charged me for it even though I decided to not use it. (was removed)
3. No Bottled Water for Platinum Guests, even though many times before I am told this is a complimentary iten they provide to all Platinums. I called for some, never was sent up.
4. No bathrobes - I'm told it is a standard by Starwood to have Bathrobes in all rooms, was eventually sent up.
5. Minibar System charged me for two items when I knocked, I was credited.
6. I had to really push for my Platinum Amenity.
Of these items 2,3,4,and 6 really bother me. I spoke with the Front Desk / SPG Manager and he apologized and promised my next stay would be better, but did not offer me any compensation - should I have expected some? I am not one to normally ask for points, but in the past at other hotels I have voiced my concern and they give me something to say sorry.
Advice? Comments?
-Vincent
1. I was "upgraded" to a tradional room. No a major issues. I don't expect upgrades, I understand hotels get sold out.
2. Internet did not work due to physical technical difficulties, fixed it then charged me for it even though I decided to not use it. (was removed)
3. No Bottled Water for Platinum Guests, even though many times before I am told this is a complimentary iten they provide to all Platinums. I called for some, never was sent up.
4. No bathrobes - I'm told it is a standard by Starwood to have Bathrobes in all rooms, was eventually sent up.
5. Minibar System charged me for two items when I knocked, I was credited.
6. I had to really push for my Platinum Amenity.
Of these items 2,3,4,and 6 really bother me. I spoke with the Front Desk / SPG Manager and he apologized and promised my next stay would be better, but did not offer me any compensation - should I have expected some? I am not one to normally ask for points, but in the past at other hotels I have voiced my concern and they give me something to say sorry.
Advice? Comments?
-Vincent
#72
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Advice?
Originally Posted by vincom
SPG Manager...., but did not offer me any compensation - should I have expected some? I am not one to normally ask for points, but in the past at other hotels I have voiced my concern and they give me something to say sorry.
Advice? Comments?
-Vincent
Advice? Comments?
-Vincent
I think you should take your own advice you gave me for the El Tamarindo situation and "deal with it", as things like this happen from time to time.
If at least, now the hotel knows they have some problems that can be easily remediated. I'm sure SPG will do something to make the situation right, even though your not exactly "expecting something in return".
#73
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Originally Posted by vincom
Of these items 2,3,4,and 6 really bother me.
-Vincent
-Vincent
If 2, 3, 4, & 6 are the least of your worries, I think you'll be okay. Try the hotel not even being there for you to stay in. ^
Suggestions on how to deal with it:
2) Valid Concern, it got fixed so you could have used it.
3) Go to the vending machine/convenient store or go to the lobby and request a bottle of agua.
4) Bring your own jammi's next time
6) Ask politely upon check in for amenity, if not received, then follow up after your stay with corporate customer service.
Thats all, just my two cents.
#74
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Originally Posted by vincom
I recently stayed at the Westin St. Francis and has a less than fantastic time...Of these items 2,3,4,and 6 really bother me. I spoke with the Front Desk / SPG Manager and he apologized and promised my next stay would be better, but did not offer me any compensation - should I have expected some? I am not one to normally ask for points, but in the past at other hotels I have voiced my concern and they give me something to say sorry.
Advice? Comments?
-Vincent
Advice? Comments?
-Vincent
I would definitely report #2 and possibly #5 to Corporate Customer Service - just as an FYI apparently since they seemed to have corrected the problem and apologized for them.
If #6 doesn't get credited, just let Platinum Concierge know and I'm sure they will take care of it ASAP.
#3 and #4 really would not be an issue unless you were staying in a room that was classified higher than traditional. If it was, then they should also be reported to Corporate Customer Service.
Sincerely,
William R. Sanders
Customer Service Coordinator
Starwood Preferred Services
[email protected]
#75
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
Sorry your stay was anything less than spectacular.
I would definitely report #2 and possibly #5 to Corporate Customer Service - just as an FYI apparently since they seemed to have corrected the problem and apologized for them.
If #6 doesn't get credited, just let Platinum Concierge know and I'm sure they will take care of it ASAP.
#3 and #4 really would not be an issue unless you were staying in a room that was classified higher than traditional. If it was, then they should also be reported to Corporate Customer Service.
Sincerely,
William R. Sanders
Customer Service Coordinator
Starwood Preferred Services
[email protected]
I would definitely report #2 and possibly #5 to Corporate Customer Service - just as an FYI apparently since they seemed to have corrected the problem and apologized for them.
If #6 doesn't get credited, just let Platinum Concierge know and I'm sure they will take care of it ASAP.
#3 and #4 really would not be an issue unless you were staying in a room that was classified higher than traditional. If it was, then they should also be reported to Corporate Customer Service.
Sincerely,
William R. Sanders
Customer Service Coordinator
Starwood Preferred Services
[email protected]
My post was really more about should I have expect some pointage offering or something, I normally don't but in the past when they ask at check out "how was your stay" and I'm honest - no complaining, but I tell it like it is, if it seems something they know was not as it should be they 90% of the time offer without me asking points or something else. I guess every manager decides to handle a situation differently.
I still think the Westin St. Francis beats the pants off the Palace Hotel and that it is awesome. This may change though when I finally get to visit the St. Regis in San Francisco.
-Vincent