Add Child cost more for same room?
Apr 24, 2017, 3:28 pm
#16
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Italian fire codes are strict for hotels. Some rooms at many hotels in Italy are literally only able to accommodate 1 person, others are designated for 2. There are very few hotels that charge the same price for 3 as for 2.
Apr 24, 2017, 10:09 pm
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To me, this says that if it's one adult plus child in room, the single rate is charged. For two adults (only), the double rate applies. However, for two adults plus one child, the assumption is that the child will need additional bedding, hence the extra charge.
Apr 24, 2017, 10:38 pm
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I have asked in the past and told that if no extra bedding is required, just book for the (2) adults and keep the (2) children out of the reservation. My two children are now G2 and G4. The children can easily be added during check-in if necessary and I received this advice from properties across SPG, Hilton and IHG. If there are concerns for high last minute charges (geographic specific like Japan), I will drop those properties an email to verify.
The only consistently inconsistent part are the breakfasts. Lounges usually do not care (so far for me) but at restaurants, I sometimes get charged for 1 child, sometimes 2 children, sometimes all free and that varies wildly even for same property, same stay but different days. Classic case of YMMV.
The only consistently inconsistent part are the breakfasts. Lounges usually do not care (so far for me) but at restaurants, I sometimes get charged for 1 child, sometimes 2 children, sometimes all free and that varies wildly even for same property, same stay but different days. Classic case of YMMV.
Apr 24, 2017, 11:18 pm
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I recently stayed at the Westin in Florence, and was charged extra for the rollaway beds for my kids. Price seemed a little steep (80 Euros x 2) if memory serves for the 3 night stay. Nevertheless, we enjoyed the hotel and will stay again. Didn't have breakfast at the hotel, as we enjoyed the local cafe's offerings each morning. Hotel staff were fantastic though.
Next stop was the Waldorf in Rome, and as usual Hilton seems to be more family friendly IMO, with no extra charges. Think we had 5 nights and were spoiled by the level of service from the hotel.
Both were points stays FWIW.
Next stop was the Waldorf in Rome, and as usual Hilton seems to be more family friendly IMO, with no extra charges. Think we had 5 nights and were spoiled by the level of service from the hotel.
Both were points stays FWIW.
Apr 25, 2017, 8:16 am
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I have asked in the past and told that if no extra bedding is required, just book for the (2) adults and keep the (2) children out of the reservation. My two children are now G2 and G4. The children can easily be added during check-in if necessary and I received this advice from properties across SPG, Hilton and IHG. If there are concerns for high last minute charges (geographic specific like Japan), I will drop those properties an email to verify.
The only consistently inconsistent part are the breakfasts. Lounges usually do not care (so far for me) but at restaurants, I sometimes get charged for 1 child, sometimes 2 children, sometimes all free and that varies wildly even for same property, same stay but different days. Classic case of YMMV.
The only consistently inconsistent part are the breakfasts. Lounges usually do not care (so far for me) but at restaurants, I sometimes get charged for 1 child, sometimes 2 children, sometimes all free and that varies wildly even for same property, same stay but different days. Classic case of YMMV.
Apr 25, 2017, 10:43 am
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however, everytime i have traveled with my 2 toddlers i have been told by different properties to only book for 2 adults & the kids stay free since they are under 12 years old & no extra bedding is required....
Apr 25, 2017, 10:52 am
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Several years ago there was an outraged parent on here who tried the "just don't tell them about the child" act. And the hotel in Paris found out about the child. OPPS! The additional room they wound up paying for at rack rate was not a cheap addition! I would not assume you can "Deal with it when you show up" unless you understand that could be "here's the rack rate price for your extra room"
Apr 25, 2017, 11:04 am
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Several years ago there was an outraged parent on here who tried the "just don't tell them about the child" act. And the hotel in Paris found out about the child. OPPS! The additional room they wound up paying for at rack rate was not a cheap addition! I would not assume you can "Deal with it when you show up" unless you understand that could be "here's the rack rate price for your extra room"
Apr 25, 2017, 11:22 am
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I believe the OP had screenshots of a room with 2 twins, makable into a King, not a room with 2 doubles (or queens). The implication is that a twin fits one person, so a King fits two people. So, to add a child or two into that room would not physically work. If the OP had been trying to book with 2 doubles or queens, there may not have been this issue.
As for getting charged for 2 rollaways at the Westin Excelsior Florence, that was the correct thing to do per hotel rooms. The kids weren't using existing bedding. I've seen hotels in the US charge $50/night per rollaway.
The Cavalieri in Rome (the "Waldorf") is more of a resort than a city hotel. The grounds, the pool... It is always full of families. I loved the location up on the hill - made for great evenings on the patio, overlooking the lights of Rome.
As for getting charged for 2 rollaways at the Westin Excelsior Florence, that was the correct thing to do per hotel rooms. The kids weren't using existing bedding. I've seen hotels in the US charge $50/night per rollaway.
The Cavalieri in Rome (the "Waldorf") is more of a resort than a city hotel. The grounds, the pool... It is always full of families. I loved the location up on the hill - made for great evenings on the patio, overlooking the lights of Rome.
Apr 25, 2017, 12:57 pm
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Welcome to Europe.
In the US, you book a hotel for one person and show up with your whole family... No one cares.
In Spain, you book a hotel for 2 people and show up with an extra infant... You aren't given your room and they act like you are a crazy person.
In the US, you book a hotel for one person and show up with your whole family... No one cares.
In Spain, you book a hotel for 2 people and show up with an extra infant... You aren't given your room and they act like you are a crazy person.
Apr 25, 2017, 4:56 pm
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I believe the OP had screenshots of a room with 2 twins, makable into a King, not a room with 2 doubles (or queens). The implication is that a twin fits one person, so a King fits two people. So, to add a child or two into that room would not physically work. If the OP had been trying to book with 2 doubles or queens, there may not have been this issue.
As for getting charged for 2 rollaways at the Westin Excelsior Florence, that was the correct thing to do per hotel rooms. The kids weren't using existing bedding. I've seen hotels in the US charge $50/night per rollaway.
The Cavalieri in Rome (the "Waldorf") is more of a resort than a city hotel. The grounds, the pool... It is always full of families. I loved the location up on the hill - made for great evenings on the patio, overlooking the lights of Rome.
As for getting charged for 2 rollaways at the Westin Excelsior Florence, that was the correct thing to do per hotel rooms. The kids weren't using existing bedding. I've seen hotels in the US charge $50/night per rollaway.
The Cavalieri in Rome (the "Waldorf") is more of a resort than a city hotel. The grounds, the pool... It is always full of families. I loved the location up on the hill - made for great evenings on the patio, overlooking the lights of Rome.
Off topic, but we did look like typical Americans at both hotels. While other guests sometimes arrived in Bentley's and Range Rovers and dressed as though they arrived for the red carpet, we probably looked more like the Griswalds.
Apr 26, 2017, 12:23 pm
#28
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I have asked in the past and told that if no extra bedding is required, just book for the (2) adults and keep the (2) children out of the reservation. My two children are now G2 and G4. The children can easily be added during check-in if necessary and I received this advice from properties across SPG, Hilton and IHG. If there are concerns for high last minute charges (geographic specific like Japan), I will drop those properties an email to verify.
The only consistently inconsistent part are the breakfasts. Lounges usually do not care (so far for me) but at restaurants, I sometimes get charged for 1 child, sometimes 2 children, sometimes all free and that varies wildly even for same property, same stay but different days. Classic case of YMMV.
The only consistently inconsistent part are the breakfasts. Lounges usually do not care (so far for me) but at restaurants, I sometimes get charged for 1 child, sometimes 2 children, sometimes all free and that varies wildly even for same property, same stay but different days. Classic case of YMMV.