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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public. SPG will deny member only rates from 3rd party websites.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved. There are a few exceptions where properties impose stricter cancellation term based on competing rates.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)

Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    Differing currencies
    • "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

    Link to T&C
    https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

    Practicalities During/After Stay
    • Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
    • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

    How to view your reservation after BRG has been approved
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.
    • Log into your SPG account
    • Click on your stays to view your current reservation
    • Click on "Set Stay Preferences", then SAVE
    • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How to cancel a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to cancel the reservation

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to select "apply SNA to this stay" link


POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old Jun 21, 2017, 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by GalaxyChris
Another case with BRG.

I tried with Hotel Westin Chosun Seoul but the final BRG price do not match.
I made again the calculation of the taxes and complained about it, then this is the answer I got from the BRG staff in India

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I would also like to advise you that the taxes applicable at The Westin Bund Center, Shanghai are 6.60% VAT and 10.00% Service Charge per room per night. However, taxes included in amoma.com's rates are incorrect. Amoma.com is charging around 11.00 % taxes only. So, for fair calculation we have compared the excluding taxes rates.
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So if the Amoma price is tax and fees included, how this agent can pretend that stupid things ? Amoma is cheating ?

Amoma hotel page specify :
Taxes and fees information
All displayed prices include Tax Recovery Charges and Service Fee
Originally Posted by supatight80
Ha? Did the indian brg team look at the wrong property?

Yep. Better clarify.

If the BRG team has compared the wrong property, then you should tell them to review the case.

However, if no mistake was made (except quoting the wrong name), then it is correct that they deduct the taxes that are shown on SPG.COM and compare the rates after removal of taxes.
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Old Jun 21, 2017, 11:52 pm
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Originally Posted by supatight80
Ha? Did the indian brg team look at the wrong property?
its very possible....so far i've been extremely unimpressed with the brg team in india....
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Old Jun 22, 2017, 5:28 am
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Ditto! I had an explanation recently why a rate was not approved based on the currency aspect. I had no idea what they were talking about and it made no sense whatsoever. Rather than going back and forth and just cancelled my reservation and re-sent it hoping the Canadian group would get it - they did and it was approved.
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Old Jun 22, 2017, 12:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Bravada04
Rather than going back and forth and just cancelled my reservation and re-sent it hoping the Canadian group would get it - they did and it was approved.
i don't even do that anymore....i just call the brg team & the get the rate approved....
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Old Jun 22, 2017, 10:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Keyser
i don't even do that anymore....i just call the brg team & the get the rate approved....
I called the BRG team and they told the same blabla about Amoma taxes.
my price was all taxes included (IP location Switzerland) and no mention about the tax amount.
Agent told me he see the tax amount, and the amount was not right for him.

So I canceled my booking and made a new claim with Galahotels instead and get approved at the right price.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 9:48 am
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Can anyone confirm that in the event of the cheapest available room category being sold out on spg and available on a competitor's site, the room category gets adjusted to the one on the competitor's web site?
In other words, if on spg all they are selling are suites but expedia is still selling a classic rooms when the rate is matched, is the room category adjusted down to classic?
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 11:29 am
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The BRG will be approved for a classic room, but chances are that your reservation will remain for a suite.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
The BRG will be approved for a classic room, but chances are that your reservation will remain for a suite.
Thanks. That's exactly my experience but the wiki says otherwise. Have others has the higher category confirmed? Or indeed has anyone had the room category matched to the one of the ta?
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 11:13 pm
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Some of my recent successful claims.

Hotel Name: W St. Petersburg
Arrival Date : 07/xx/2017
Departure Date : 07/yy/2017 (2 nights)
Number of Adults :2
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : wonderful room
Starwood Rate : RUB 0 (No availability on spg.com)
Competing Website : galahotels.com
Competing rate : USD 1077 per stay (all taxes and fees included)
Actual confirmed rate: 20,877.54 RUB plus tax, per night (26,096.93 RUB less 20%)

Hotel Name: The St. Regis Moscow Nikolskaya
Arrival Date : 07/xx/2017
Departure Date : 07/yy/2017 (2 nights)
Number of Adults :2
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : superior room
Starwood Rate : RUB 15300 per night
Competing Website : destinia.com
Competing rate : EUR 558.05 per stay (all taxes and fees included)
Actual confirmed rate: 11784.37 RUB per night + tax (14730.47-20%)

Hotel Name: Plaza Athénée Bangkok, A Royal Méridien Hotel
Arrival Date : 08/xx/2017
Departure Date : 08/yy/2017 (3 nights)
Number of Adults :2
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : Athenee room
Starwood Rate : THB 4199 per night
Competing Website : Galahotels.com
Competing rate : USD 393 per stay (all taxes and fees included)
Actual confirmed rate: 3,029.85 THB plus taxes and service charge per night (3,787.31 THB less 20%)
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 5:57 am
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More recently successful claims.

Hotel Name: Sheraton Iguazú Resort & Spa
Arrival Date : 11/xx/2017
Departure Date : 11/yy/2017 (3 nights)
Number of Adults :2
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : classic room
Starwood Rate : USD 287.05 per nights
Competing Website : galahotels.com
Competing rate : USD 899 per stay (all taxes and fees included, breakfast also included)
Actual confirmed rate: $200.26 USD per night plus taxes ($250.32 USD less 20%)

Hotel Name: Tambo del Inka, a Luxury Collection Resort & Spa, Valle Sagrado
Arrival Date : 11/xx/2017
Departure Date : 11/yy/2017 (3 nights)
Number of Adults :2
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : Superior room
Starwood Rate : USD 174.2 per night
Competing Website : Expedia.de
Competing rate : EUR 493.56 per stay (all taxes and fees included)
Actual confirmed rate: 115.07 usd per room per night plus taxes (28%)(143.83 usd less 20%)

Hotel Name: San Cristobal Tower, a Luxury Collection Hotel, Santiago
Arrival Date : 11-xx-2017
Departure Date : 12-yy-2017 (3 nights)
Number of Adults : 1
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : grand deluxe room
Starwood Rate : USD 0 (no availability on spg.com)
Competing Website : galahotels.com
Competing rate : USD 646 per stay (all taxes and fees included)
Actual confirmed rate: 145.00 USD per night plus IVA (181.25 USD less 20%)
Comment: This booking will be canceled once the W Santiago brg claim was approved. Note that the room type booked was executive suite as there was no grad deluxe room available.
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by 3rdworldresident
Hotel Name: San Cristobal Tower, a Luxury Collection Hotel, Santiago
Arrival Date : 11-xx-2017
Departure Date : 12-yy-2017 (3 nights)
Number of Adults : 1
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : grand deluxe room
Starwood Rate : USD 0 (no availability on spg.com)
Competing Website : galahotels.com
Competing rate : USD 646 per stay (all taxes and fees included)
Actual confirmed rate: 145.00 USD per night plus IVA (181.25 USD less 20%)
Comment: This booking will be canceled once the W Santiago brg claim was approved. Note that the room type booked was executive suite as there was no grad deluxe room available.
That's a great rate. Personally, considering you get breakfast and a great happy hour at the San Cristobal (with an amazing view), I would recommend this over the W. Unless you get a similar rate, or you really want the W scene. The rooms at the W Santiago are meh, and the Plat treatment was not very good.

Great rate at the TdI too - well done!
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 10:15 pm
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Originally Posted by 3rdworldresident
Some of my recent successful claims.

Hotel Name: W St. Petersburg
Arrival Date : 07/xx/2017
Departure Date : 07/yy/2017 (2 nights)
Number of Adults :2
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : wonderful room
Starwood Rate : RUB 0 (No availability on spg.com)
Competing Website : galahotels.com
Competing rate : USD 1077 per stay (all taxes and fees included)
Actual confirmed rate: 20,877.54 RUB plus tax, per night (26,096.93 RUB less 20%)

Hotel Name: The St. Regis Moscow Nikolskaya
Arrival Date : 07/xx/2017
Departure Date : 07/yy/2017 (2 nights)
Number of Adults :2
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : superior room
Starwood Rate : RUB 15300 per night
Competing Website : destinia.com
Competing rate : EUR 558.05 per stay (all taxes and fees included)
Actual confirmed rate: 11784.37 RUB per night + tax (14730.47-20%)
looking forward to a review for both these properties....i will be staying at both later this year....
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Old Jun 28, 2017, 8:04 am
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another successful claim

Hotel Name: W Santiago
Arrival Date : 11/xx/2017
Departure Date : 12/yy/2017 (3 nights)
Number of Adults :2
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : Wonderful room with breakfast
Starwood Rate : USD 335 per night
Competing Website : Easyclicktravel.com
Competing rate : USD 752.15 per stay (all taxes and fees included, breakfast also included)
Actual confirmed rate: $168.55 USD ($210.69USD less 20%) plus IVA per night

anyway i may not end up staying at W because i found the acceptable rate for a club room (211.75 USD per night) at nearby ritz carlton using brg claim.
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Old Jun 29, 2017, 8:20 am
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Breakfast included - yes or no?

Hi all,

I had a successful BRG claim with Le Meridien Saigon.
Just checked into the Le Meridien and was informed at check-in that my BRG claim rate comes without breakfast.

I matched the rate from getaroom.com, the matching rate was with breakfast.
The flexible rate I had booked on SPG.com was apparently without breakfast....

Now to my actual question - am I entitled to breakfast?
I was under the impression that because the matching rate came with breakfast, that it would be included.

Thanks for your help!
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Old Jun 29, 2017, 8:41 am
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What does your BRG confirmation say? If it says breakfast included, then it's included. If it doesn't, you're probably too late to get it fixed.

FYI, when I submit a BRG that includes breakfast, I always make a comment in the notes so the agents don't miss it. And yes, you should have booked a flexible, breakfast included rate.
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