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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public. SPG will deny member only rates from 3rd party websites.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved. There are a few exceptions where properties impose stricter cancellation term based on competing rates.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)

Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    Differing currencies
    • "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

    Link to T&C
    https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

    Practicalities During/After Stay
    • Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
    • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

    How to view your reservation after BRG has been approved
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.
    • Log into your SPG account
    • Click on your stays to view your current reservation
    • Click on "Set Stay Preferences", then SAVE
    • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How to cancel a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to cancel the reservation

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to select "apply SNA to this stay" link


POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old Mar 23, 2017, 7:47 am
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20% or 2000?

Hi, I scrolled through the postings and couldn't find the answer.
My question is what is the breakeven point for deciding that the 20% is a better deal than the 2000 points?

​​I understand it's the value you put on points, but everyone's value is different. What is your value? For me, normally when I have looked, the cash price of a 10000 point stay is approximately $200. So is it safe to say if BRG 20% rate difference is around $40 take the 20%, if less then take the 2000 points?
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Old Mar 23, 2017, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by kaaria
Hi, I scrolled through the postings and couldn't find the answer.
My question is what is the breakeven point for deciding that the 20% is a better deal than the 2000 points?

​​I understand it's the value you put on points, but everyone's value is different. What is your value? For me, normally when I have looked, the cash price of a 10000 point stay is approximately $200. So is it safe to say if BRG 20% rate difference is around $40 take the 20%, if less then take the 2000 points?
There are many threads on the value of points. I'd say 2cts/pt is a fairly standard rate, but can be considered to be on the low side. If you redeem your points well, at times when rates are high, or using C+P you can often get 3 or 4cts out of each point.

But in short I also use roughly U$40 as a breakeven for taking the 2000 points.
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 2:23 pm
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What to do when the BRG desk cannot compute?

I was happy that the BRG desk approved a claim of mine recently. However, not so happy when I realized that they simply used the third party rate (which included tax/fees) to match my applicable rate and then added tax/fees on top of that.

For instance, third party site quotes a rate of $100 inclusive of tax / fees, whereas the SPG site is $150 plus tax/fees

BRG agreed that the third party site had a lower rate but matched my rate to $100 plus tax/fees

I have sent them an e-mail explaining this, but as usual there has been no response in over 36 hours!
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 2:44 pm
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Pick up the phone and call. It's the easiest way to fix this and you won't get the usual robotic answer from the Indian centre telling you that your BRG was processed by a team of experts ...
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Old Mar 25, 2017, 12:24 am
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Almost 48hours and still no reply. Disappointed with the response rate recently.
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Old Mar 25, 2017, 4:06 am
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And now I get an error message, that I don't have access rights to send this form, when trying to send a claim

Tried it on 4 different systems with Safari, Chrome and Edge.
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Old Mar 25, 2017, 5:35 am
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Originally Posted by DaveMidknight
And now I get an error message, that I don't have access rights to send this form, when trying to send a claim

Tried it on 4 different systems with Safari, Chrome and Edge.
I had the same problem. Finally discovered it was due to putting a lot of lines of text in the comments box at the end of the form.
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Old Mar 25, 2017, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by travelswithmyself
I had the same problem. Finally discovered it was due to putting a lot of lines of text in the comments box at the end of the form.
Thanks! That solved the problem.
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Old Mar 27, 2017, 6:53 pm
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Ugh.........I was on a good roll with my BRG's not going through the India group.......Lo & behold today I received my email back saying it is not approved and it makes no sense when I read it. I have been watching the site like a hawk and nothing has changed!! Now I have to D%$ around and send back with a screen shot etc., and hopefully it will work. I thought I would try that rather than cancelling my reservation and re-booking.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 1:47 am
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Originally Posted by Bravada04
Ugh.........I was on a good roll with my BRG's not going through the India group.......Lo & behold today I received my email back saying it is not approved and it makes no sense when I read it. I have been watching the site like a hawk and nothing has changed!! Now I have to D%$ around and send back with a screen shot etc., and hopefully it will work. I thought I would try that rather than cancelling my reservation and re-booking.
Exactly same to me. Canceled the booking(after reply with screen shots and denial again),made a new one and new BRG claim. Indian team is a disaster, a fact. Average reply time during last weeks was more than 48 hrs.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 4:06 am
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Hotel Name: Sheraton Tribeca New York
Dates: 9 nights in June-July
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 1
Room Type: traditional room
Starwood Web Site Rate: $153.82 + taxes per night
Competing Website: Booking.com
Competing rate: $145.67 + taxes per night
BRG Reward: 20% off
Actual confirmed rate: $116.54 + taxes per night
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 11:40 am
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Question: If I find a lower rate, submit the BRG request for 2,000 starpoints, and then have to cancel my booking (for whatever reason), do I keep the points? Or does the guarantee only apply if I complete my stay?
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by alvarez16
Question: If I find a lower rate, submit the BRG request for 2,000 starpoints, and then have to cancel my booking (for whatever reason), do I keep the points? Or does the guarantee only apply if I complete my stay?
The points are not given until after the stay is actually consumed.

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Old Mar 29, 2017, 1:42 pm
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Datapoint: had a claim approved today within less than 70 minutes. English competing site, processed by the great Heidi P. There's still hope guys
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 2:16 pm
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Hotel Name: The Park Central San Francisco
Arrival Date: May 26, 2017
Departure Date: May 28, 2017
Room Type: One Traditional, non-smoking with two guests, room only
Actual confirmed rate: $137.54 USD per night plus taxes and fees, room only ($171.93 USD less 20%)
Competing website: amoma.com
Notes: My claim was initially rejected by someone in India, I called in and it was subsequently approved.
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