Cities where Marriott hotels are better than Starwood hotels?
Sep 28, 2016, 1:29 am
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Frankfurt, Germany. I was there recently for a business trip and stayed in three SPG hotels:
1. Westin Grand frankfurt
2. Le meridien Parkhotel Frankfurt
3. Sheraton offenbach (Not exactly Frankfurt but close enough)
I think Marriott Frankfurt in city center beats them all hands down.
1. Westin Grand frankfurt
2. Le meridien Parkhotel Frankfurt
3. Sheraton offenbach (Not exactly Frankfurt but close enough)
I think Marriott Frankfurt in city center beats them all hands down.
Sep 28, 2016, 8:00 am
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About 5-12 aspirational Ritz-Carltons elsewhere.
Some JWs, but not many.
Sep 28, 2016, 9:16 am
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IMO many of these aren't aspirational because they tend to be cookie cutter. They can be top hotels, but they tend to be too uniform to be interesting.
Sep 28, 2016, 10:54 am
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Cheers.
Sep 28, 2016, 11:23 am
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New York Category 8 hotels require 13,333 Starwood Points. Cat 7 around 12,000. Residence Inn World Trade Center and Residence inn Central Park / Midtown East beat Sheratons / Four Points any day IMO
Sep 28, 2016, 2:24 pm
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Am I wrong? The Sheraton Sleeper bed is extremely comfortable, even if Sheraton as a brand is inconsistent across the USA. I'd assume most Sheraton properties will be nicer and have a little better service and services offered than at most Residence Inns.
Sep 28, 2016, 3:05 pm
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It's been a few years since I last stayed at a Residence Inn in some small town somewhere. I recall not being thrilled with the bed, and feeling like it was more a select service hotel than any proper Sheraton/Marriott.
Am I wrong? The Sheraton Sleeper bed is extremely comfortable, even if Sheraton as a brand is inconsistent across the USA. I'd assume most Sheraton properties will be nicer and have a little better service and services offered than at most Residence Inns.
Am I wrong? The Sheraton Sleeper bed is extremely comfortable, even if Sheraton as a brand is inconsistent across the USA. I'd assume most Sheraton properties will be nicer and have a little better service and services offered than at most Residence Inns.
This applies within brands as well; you could argue the Residence Inn Central Park is a better hotel than the nearby Marriott Marquis, for example. TripAdvisor Agrees - the Residence Inn Central Park is ranked #109 in NYC hotels, the Marriott Marquis is #209.
Sep 28, 2016, 3:12 pm
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It's been a few years since I last stayed at a Residence Inn in some small town somewhere. I recall not being thrilled with the bed, and feeling like it was more a select service hotel than any proper Sheraton/Marriott.
Am I wrong? The Sheraton Sleeper bed is extremely comfortable, even if Sheraton as a brand is inconsistent across the USA. I'd assume most Sheraton properties will be nicer and have a little better service and services offered than at most Residence Inns.
Am I wrong? The Sheraton Sleeper bed is extremely comfortable, even if Sheraton as a brand is inconsistent across the USA. I'd assume most Sheraton properties will be nicer and have a little better service and services offered than at most Residence Inns.
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Sep 28, 2016, 3:46 pm
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Yeah, I wasn't necessarily commenting on all RIs, but rather on the fact that Marriott Cat 8 portfolio in New York offers better properties (Renaissance Midtown, some of the newer Courtyards) for roughly the same amount of points (a little more) compared to a Cat 5 SPG.
Sep 28, 2016, 3:48 pm
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The newer Residence Inns in NYC are much more upscale than you would normally think...
Sep 28, 2016, 4:02 pm
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Thanks for the follow up, guys.
But no one mentioned anything about the beds at the RI versus a Marriott Marquis or Sheraton or other upper upscale property. I'd want a very comfortable bed...and the Sheraton has it. The RI didn't--by a big margin as I remember. New is lovely...but it doesn't make a bad bed better!
But no one mentioned anything about the beds at the RI versus a Marriott Marquis or Sheraton or other upper upscale property. I'd want a very comfortable bed...and the Sheraton has it. The RI didn't--by a big margin as I remember. New is lovely...but it doesn't make a bad bed better!
Sep 28, 2016, 4:16 pm
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Thanks for the follow up, guys.
But no one mentioned anything about the beds at the RI versus a Marriott Marquis or Sheraton or other upper upscale property. I'd want a very comfortable bed...and the Sheraton has it. The RI didn't--by a big margin as I remember. New is lovely...but it doesn't make a bad bed better!
But no one mentioned anything about the beds at the RI versus a Marriott Marquis or Sheraton or other upper upscale property. I'd want a very comfortable bed...and the Sheraton has it. The RI didn't--by a big margin as I remember. New is lovely...but it doesn't make a bad bed better!
It's not just the newness of RI... the Four Points in NYC are extremely barebones and lack amenities such as kitchenette, microwave, breakfast. Anyways, I'm just saying the SPG Cat 5 properties in NYC are ether old or don't have the amenities.
Sep 28, 2016, 5:00 pm
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Marriott Cat 8 portfolio is not just the Residence Inn though.
It's not just the newness of RI... the Four Points in NYC are extremely barebones and lack amenities such as kitchenette, microwave, breakfast. Anyways, I'm just saying the SPG Cat 5 properties in NYC are ether old or don't have the amenities.
It's not just the newness of RI... the Four Points in NYC are extremely barebones and lack amenities such as kitchenette, microwave, breakfast. Anyways, I'm just saying the SPG Cat 5 properties in NYC are ether old or don't have the amenities.
I don't want a kitchenette in my room as I'm not looking for an extended stay. And in NYC, there's always a nearby place to get something to eat or an easy way to order in. There is the Westside Brewhouse at the FP Chelsea, though, so breakfast is available.
Sep 28, 2016, 5:51 pm
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I actually like the Four Points in New York...for what they are. I've had nice stays at both the Chelsea (my fave) and the Times Square FP. The smaller Chelsea property is my preferred property with my student groups I lead, actually--and they treat us very well. I have been upgraded there to quite a suite with a terrace looking out to the Empire State Bldg. I didn't even know that any FP had suites!
I don't want a kitchenette in my room as I'm not looking for an extended stay. And in NYC, there's always a nearby place to get something to eat or an easy way to order in. There is the Westside Brewhouse at the FP Chelsea, though, so breakfast is available.
I don't want a kitchenette in my room as I'm not looking for an extended stay. And in NYC, there's always a nearby place to get something to eat or an easy way to order in. There is the Westside Brewhouse at the FP Chelsea, though, so breakfast is available.
I understand you don't need a kitchenette, and there may be nothing wrong with the Four Points in NYC per se. I am just saying for almost the same points (13.3K vs 12K) I'd rather stay in properties with more modern or larger rooms with more amenities. Marriott has better full-service properties in that point range IMO than the Sheraron. I think it's great for thise with loads of SPG points that the selection of properties for which you have to pay "Cat 5" SPG number of points is now much wider.
Sep 30, 2016, 9:29 am
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64th floor Residence Inn Central Park = highest rooms in NYC, by far
most brands, most of which have many (franchise) hotels, vary quite dramatically
most brands, most of which have many (franchise) hotels, vary quite dramatically