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Deal closed Sep 23 - http://news.marriott.com/2016/09/marriott-international-expanded-loyalty-benefits/
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs
Status Matches
MR Platinum <--> SPG Platinum
MR Gold <--> SPG Gold
MR Silver <--> SPG Preferred Plus
MR Member <--> SPG Preferred
If your status changes (i.e. Gold->Plat) in one program, your status in the other program will be automatically upgraded within 24 hours per Marriott FAQ
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
To link your accounts, log in to either account at:
http://www.spg.com/linkmarriott
http://members.marriott.com/
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
This is the Official Answer : "We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018."
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT change lifetime MR points.
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT count as activity & therefore does not extend the expiration date of points.
SPG platinum member matched to MR plat and now interested in the MR - UA Silver status match ? Check here.
Updated Terms and Conditions for the two programs can be found at
http://members.marriott.com/terms-conditions/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/legal/spg_terms.html
Complete listing of all the hotel brands in the in the merged company :
http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi#ourbrands
http://www.marriott.com/Images/Brands/brands_page_2016/global_architecture_images/US_MAR_SPG_brand_architecture.png
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs
Status Matches
MR Platinum <--> SPG Platinum
MR Gold <--> SPG Gold
MR Silver <--> SPG Preferred Plus
MR Member <--> SPG Preferred
If your status changes (i.e. Gold->Plat) in one program, your status in the other program will be automatically upgraded within 24 hours per Marriott FAQ
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
To link your accounts, log in to either account at:
http://www.spg.com/linkmarriott
http://members.marriott.com/
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
This is the Official Answer : "We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018."
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT change lifetime MR points.
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT count as activity & therefore does not extend the expiration date of points.
SPG platinum member matched to MR plat and now interested in the MR - UA Silver status match ? Check here.
Updated Terms and Conditions for the two programs can be found at
http://members.marriott.com/terms-conditions/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/legal/spg_terms.html
Complete listing of all the hotel brands in the in the merged company :
http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi#ourbrands
http://www.marriott.com/Images/Brands/brands_page_2016/global_architecture_images/US_MAR_SPG_brand_architecture.png
Marriott/Starwood merger closed; FAQs; Status Match; MR & SPG accounts can be linked
#961
Join Date: May 2003
Location: LCY
Programs: SQ Krisflyer, QR Privilege Club, MB LT Plt (1K+ nights thx MB)
Posts: 1,038
I agree in general with the above comments however if we are going to engange in a comparison excersie between MR and SPG accounts it should be on a appels to appels basis no all MR Platinum and SPG Platinum / MR Gold and SPG Gold are created equal. The obvious solution is to compare using a objective variable like $-spent or butt in bed nights (base nights) at a hotel or something similar.
For example a MR Gold with 60 base nights would in my book be ranked higher than SPG platinum with 25 base nights or a SPG Platinum with 75 base nights should be ranked higher than a MR Platinum with 40 base nights etc...The same logic could be exrapolated to LT status.... ....
For example a MR Gold with 60 base nights would in my book be ranked higher than SPG platinum with 25 base nights or a SPG Platinum with 75 base nights should be ranked higher than a MR Platinum with 40 base nights etc...The same logic could be exrapolated to LT status.... ....
#962
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: JFK, DCA, BUR, YVR
Programs: AC, AS, BA, DL, HH (D), MR (T/LTP), UA (*S), UScAAre (PLT/1,87MM), WN
Posts: 5,207
+1, I also think this is ridiculous. I don't think SPG offers anything similar. However, I suppose I can part w/ $80 a month to push my combined LT nights counter over 750.
#963
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: IAD/DCA
Posts: 31,797
just noticed that over 16+ years, SPG chart is nearly unchanged >
() = 16 years ago
cat 1-4
3/2 (?)
4/3 (4/3)
7 (7)
10 (10)
cat 5-6
12-16 (10-14)
20-25 (14-20)
how does this compare to marriott?
() = 16 years ago
cat 1-4
3/2 (?)
4/3 (4/3)
7 (7)
10 (10)
cat 5-6
12-16 (10-14)
20-25 (14-20)
how does this compare to marriott?
#964
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club, Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Englandshire
Programs: SPG LT Plat, BA G, BD*LG, MG Blue+ ...
Posts: 16,017
#965
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PHL
Programs: AA EXP MM, HHonors Lifetime Diamond, Marriott Lifetime Ti, UA Silver
Posts: 5,035
It doesn't really matter how the chart has or has not changed. It matters how the individual hotels have changed in terms of their category (and the corresponding points cost) within the chart over those 16 years. The same is largely true with Marriott Rewards.
#966
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: IAD/DCA
Posts: 31,797
starwood bases it on ADR
#967
#968
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,548
I am now an SPG and matched to a Marriott Platinum. I have re-qualified as an SPG Platinum until Feb 2019. Is my Marriott status going to be Platinum as well until then?
#969
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,166
#970
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
Until the program merger is complete, expect MR/SPG to do regular sweeps to match linked accounts. So one account may show a longer date once earned but the other will "keep up" with each sweep.
#971
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador and LTT, UA Plat/LT Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 8,764
It now sounds like the earliest we can expect a combined program is actually 2019. Marriott's CEO and other execs have admitted the IT required for the back end of a combined program won't be ready at least until late 2018. They will need the IT for the front end customer interface before they can actually release and begin the new combined program. So it's almost certain to not happen until 2019--though the announcement may be sooner.
#972
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: SPG LTP, hotels, OWE, STE+, *G, Octopus
Posts: 5,783
Even if they do not combine the programmes, I cannot foresee a bright future where MaRiot wouldn't "streamline" the programmes before they're combined.
Last edited by remymartin; Jul 7, 2017 at 5:35 pm
#973
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,166
It now sounds like the earliest we can expect a combined program is actually 2019. Marriott's CEO and other execs have admitted the IT required for the back end of a combined program won't be ready at least until late 2018. They will need the IT for the front end customer interface before they can actually release and begin the new combined program. So it's almost certain to not happen until 2019--though the announcement may be sooner.
#974
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador and LTT, UA Plat/LT Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 8,764
I always get a folio emailed at check out with Starwood. I usually have an emailed folio even before I even awake on my final morning...and yet another emailed folio within an hour or so of check out if anything changed/added.
#975
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,166
Marriott - takes 48 hours now