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Old Apr 9, 2016, 12:35 pm
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Deal closed SEP 23 - http://news.marriott.com/2016/09/marriott-international-expanded-loyalty-benefits/

FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program

Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs.

If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018.

You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.

It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by spgplat21
Of course, I think the programs staying separate until 2018 is good news, but I hope the integration is limited to combining stay/night credits during 2017 to determine 2018 status in the new joint program.

It would be nice to get benefits at Marriott properties in the meantime, but it doesn't seem worth it if the trade off is opening up the SPG program to all the Marriott platinum members.
I don't understand the logic. Both groups would have access to more properties.

I don't currently stay at all SPG brands and would only be interested in Edition, and some Autograph, & JW Marriott Branded properties. I would guess that not all Marriott folks would be interested in staying at all SPG brands.
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by CLEguy
Because poor service is actually better and preferable!
I got the e-mail from Marriott two hours before I got the e-mail from SPG so I think they pretty much started the run at the same time.
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 3:53 pm
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Inconsistency prevails

As an ex-Marriott Platinum, I found MR to be the most inconsistent program in the industry. Benefits varied by brand, location, day of the week, country, and apparently the whims of each property.The mini-bottles of water offered by Renaissance as a "welcome gift" were a joke, and the faux-partners, such as AC... well, forget it. I still remember my wife and I being allowed into the Concierge Lounge in Japan, but not my adult son, although he was in the same suite with us... only two guests allowed to enter per room. That was my final year with Marriott. My point is that if the Marriott culture prevails, which I'm sure it will, SPG will be truly missed. My condolences to all.
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 4:33 pm
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It would appear my vote against the merger was very much in the minority.
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 4:47 pm
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Well, it was not unexpected. One can hope the good rubs off on the final iteration of the programme, and that the SPG DNA remains in the hotels as they merge. Meanwhile I'm off to requalify for Plat this year...

Btw, I received my MR email at XX:03H, and my SPG email at XX:54H...
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by yeunganson
If you were in the same situation, will you try to make a run to hit those additional 40 nights this year (2016) - shifting stays, taking vacations earlier and mattress runs? Or just hold steady and complete the requirements in 2017?

Any suggestions are welcomed.

I would hold steady. We don't even have a clue how LT members will be merged into the new/existing MR programme. Why generate stays/do runs just for this?
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 5:01 pm
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Heh. I received not 1 but 4 of the email to the exact same address from Marriott. SPG didn't lag either, 3 of the same email back to back
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 5:41 pm
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I'm > 500 nights, but only at 7 years Platinum. So even if I hit in 2016 and 2017, I'm one year shy of hitting lifetime Platinum before the merged program.

So while they might grandfather existing LT status, I'm certainly not going out of my way to make sure I hit Platinum with SPG until I know what the new rules are.
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 6:11 pm
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Originally Posted by KENNECTED
I don't understand the logic. Both groups would have access to more properties.

I don't currently stay at all SPG brands and would only be interested in Edition, and some Autograph, & JW Marriott Branded properties. I would guess that not all Marriott folks would be interested in staying at all SPG brands.
Perhaps some current SPG members don't want to compete with the large number of MR Platinums for upgrades, etc.
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 6:19 pm
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My guess is the SPG to airline transfer is on the clock.

Wonder what will become of the Amex SPG cards?
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 6:41 pm
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How much do you value peace of mind? If the answer is a lot, then sprint to the finish and be done with it. Otherwise, finish up next year.
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by mhdena
My guess is the SPG to airline transfer is on the clock.

Wonder what will become of the Amex SPG cards?
I personally hope they keep the transfer partners and the Amex Cards the same. I wonder what percentage of revenue comes from the credit card?
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 7:27 pm
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So I have 'til 2018 to enjoy everything within SPG and the Starwood family, cuz I'm not staying with the Marriott chain ever. Please don't merge! Reconsider.
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
Soon we will begin the long journey to integrate the very best of SPG and Marriott Rewards®. Through this process, your perspective will help guide these discussions
...

Know that we’re listening to your feedback, and we value your input.

...
Thank you for sharing your travels with SPG.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide

[email protected]
William, you and the Lurkers are one of the many reasons that many of us have remained loyal to SPG over the years, and many of us have gone on to achieve Lifetime Platinum status!

I do really hope that the new MR/SPG team will be listening to us, as you have indicated above. We hope to continue our association with you and with the new SPG under MR, and we are keeping our fingers crossed.

I did get the email from SPG earlier today. No email from MR yet.

Last edited by sapguy; Apr 8, 2016 at 7:37 pm
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 7:49 pm
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Originally Posted by KENNECTED
I don't understand the logic. Both groups would have access to more properties.

I don't currently stay at all SPG brands and would only be interested in Edition, and some Autograph, & JW Marriott Branded properties. I would guess that not all Marriott folks would be interested in staying at all SPG brands.
My main concern is with higher end properties and resorts where Marriott benefits are garbage and redemption rates are through the roof. If I had a choice between a stay at a st Regis with spg benefits or a Ritz with Marriott benefits, I know what I would choose every time. Resorts are another area of concern because SPG actually provides meaningful benefits so if you have comparable resorts, I would think SPG would be the choice then too. As an SPG member though, I would not stay at a Ritz or a Marriott Resort unless there was no comparable SPG option.
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