Old Oct 4, 2013, 11:13 pm
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This Wiki is helpful for those of us trying to identify if we're getting a good rate or if it may be better to wait until a better rate comes along.

As such, please list the lowest rate you've ever seen at a property that is available to the general public (this excludes SET rates, Gov't rates and AARP). We will include AAA rates, since anyone can join AAA and be eligible.

Please be sure to:
1- list the mo/year the rate was good for (NOT the month you found the rate). This will allow us to see seasonality. So, for example if you find a rate lower than one shown below for the same season (spring, summer, winter or fall) - replace the rate you found with the new one. If you found it in a different season or year, just add it below the rate - and leave the rate shown.
2- list the type of rate you found or where you found it (if not on Starwood). If you found the rate off Starwood - please list "all in" rate (including taxes & fees you were charged).
3- list the rates in local currency (which removes currency fluctuations).

Asia Pacific

Australia
Gold Coast - Sheraton Mirage Resort & Spa
Summer - $206.67 AUD incl tax, Mastercard Buy 2 Get 3 (3/2014)
Melbourne - The Westin Melbourne
Summer - $201 AUD incl tax, SPG Cyber Monday Sale (11/2016)
Sydney - Four Points by Sheraton Syndey, Darling Harbour
Summer - $164 AUD incl. tax, Mastercard 20% off 2+ nights (03/2014)
Fall - $164 AUD incl tax, Mastercard 20% off 2+ nights (4/2014)
Sydney - Sheraton on the Park
Winter - $145 AUD incl. tax, Pre-paid rate (08/2012)
Summer - $204 AUD incl tax, pre-paid rate (3/2014)
Sydney - The Westin Sydney
Summer - $225 AUD incl. tax, BAR (03/2014)

China
Hong Kong - Sheraton Hong Kong Hotel & Towers
Fall - 1,900 HKD + 10% tax, SPG Hot Escapes, Member Only (11/2013)
Summer - 1,710 HKD + 10% tax, 14 Days Adv Booking, Prepaid (08/2014)
Winter - 1,520 HKD + 10% tax, SPG Hot Escapes, Member Only (12/2013)
Shandong - Aloft Haylang
Winter- 24USD Hot rates.
Zhengzhou - Aloft Zhengzhou Shangjie
Fall- 188CNY weekend, 288CNY weekday (10/2013)
Macau/Macao - Sheraton Macao, Cotai Central
Winter - 1,250 HKD + service charge and taxes. BRG Rate (01/2015)

India
Jaipur- Four Points by Sheraton Jaipur
Summer - INR 2,699 ($43) tax inclusive, BAR (05/2013)

Indonesia
Bali- Le Meridien Bali
Summer - $135 USD + tax, Best Available Rate (08/2013)
Bali - Westin Bali
Winter - 124 USD++, Hot Escapes (01/2014)
Spring 108.31 all in, BRG rate, with 10% discount, from agoda (03/2014)

Korea
Seoul- Westin Chosun Seoul
Winter - 165,898.91 KRW plus tax and service charge, per night. BRG Rate ~ USD150++ per night (Feb 2015)

Singapore
Singapore - Sheraton Singapore

Fall - 197 SGD (10/2013)
Winter - 182 SGD++, Hot Escapes (01/2014)
Singapore - Westin Singapore
Winter - 296 SGD++, Hot Escapes (01/2014)

Thailand
Bangkok - Aloft Bangkok Sukhumvit 11
Fall - 2,204 THB + tax, SPG Hot Escapes Members Rate (Oct & Nov 2013)
Winter - 2,350 THB + tax, SPG50 (Dec 2013)
Bangkok - Four Points by Sheraton Bangkok
Fall - 2,659 THB + 17.7% tax, SPG Hot Escapes (Dec 2013)
Winter - 2,667 THB + 17.7% tax, Buy 2 get 1 free (Jan 2014)
Bangkok - Le Meridien:
Fall - 3,192THB + 17.7% tax, SPG Hot Escapes (10/2013)
Summer - 3,000THB +17.7% tax, (7/2010)
Winter - 2,718.78 THB ++ (1/2014)
Bangkok - Plaza Athne Bangkok, A Royal Mridien Hotel
Winter - 3,533 THB ++ (12/2013)
Bangkok - Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit:
Summer - 3,999 THB ++ SPG Hot Escapes weekends (07/2014)
Summer - 2,350 THB (~55) incl. Breakf. & Tax logitravel.de (08/2013)
Winter - 3,999 THB ++ Chinese New Year prepaid hotel offer (01/2012)
Bangkok - W Bangkok
Summer - 2,350 THB ($75USD) + 17.7% tax, Red Hot Deal - Save 50%, on hotelclub.com (07/2013)
Fall - 3,900 THB ++, Red Hot Deal Save 50% Prepaid (11/2013)
Bangkok - Westin Grande Sukhumvit:
Fall - 2,850 THB ++ weekends, SPG Hot Escapes (Oct, Nov & Dec 2013)
Winter - 3,000 THB ++ SPG Hot Escapes (Jan & Feb 2014)
Phuket - Westin Siray Bay
Fall - 2,200 THB ++ DALY50 (09/2013)
Koh Samui - Le Meridien Koh Samui Resort & Spa
Spring THB 4,468.06 all in. BRG claim, with 10% discount, from agoda (05/2014)

Europe

France
Paris - Le Meridien Etoile
Spring - 123 Euros including tax, Travel Zoo, prepaid rate (01/2012)
Fall - 133 Euros including tax, Travel Zoo, prepaid rate (02/2015)

Georgia
Batumi - Sheraton Batumi
Fall - $145USD including tax, SPG50 (09/2013)

Germany
Duesseldorf - Sheraton Duesseldorf Airport
Fall - 88 including tax, BeatTheTimer (10/2013)
Essen - Sheraton Essen
Fall - 89 including tax, BeatTheTimer (10/2013)
Frankfurt- Sheraton Frankfurt Airport
Winter - 90, Hot Escapes (01/2014)

Greece
Athens - King George
Fall - 141.75 + 7% tax, Best Available Rate (Oct & Nov 2013)

Italy
Bari - Sheraton Nicolaus:
Fall- 83.70 including tax, AAA (09/2013)
Milan - Four Points Milan
Fall - 74 including tax, Buy 2 get 1 free weekends (Oct, Nov & Dec 2013)
Milan - Sheraton Diana Majestic:
Fall - 89 including tax, BeatTheTimer (09/2013)
Milan - Westin Palace:
Fall - 118 including tax, except 5 city tax, BeatTheTimer (10/2013)
Rome - Westin Excelsior
Fall - 217 plus tax, SPG Hot Escapes Members Rate (11/2013)

Spain
Barcelona - Le Meridien Barcelona
Fall - 166 plus tax, Buy 2 get 1 free (11/2013)
Barcelona - W Barcelona
Fall - 173 plus tax, Buy 2 get 1 free (11/2013)
Madrid - Westin Palace:
Summer - 159 plus tax, SPG Hot Escapes (8/2014)
Fall - 168 plus tax (11/2013)

Russia
St. Petersburg - W St. Petersburg
Fall - $125 + tax on Sundays, SPG Hot Escapes Members Rate (11/2013)

Middle East & Africa

Egypt
Luxor- Sheraton Luxor, Egypt
Fall - $49.21USD +24% tax, 30% off prepaid incl. breakfast (11/2013)
UAE
Abu Dhabi - St Regis Saadiyat Island
Winter - 714 AED, prepaid rate (12/2013)

North America

California
Los Angeles - Westin Long Beach
Fall - $109 + tax, Birth Year Offer (10/2014)
San Francisco - Le Meridien San Francisco
Winter - $169 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)
San Francisco - Palace Hotel
Summer - $199 + tax, Best Available Rate (8/2013)
Winter - $145 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)
San Francisco - Sheraton Fisherman's Wharf Hotel
Fall - $129 + tax, Best Available Rate (11/2013)
Winter - $139 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)
San Francisco - W San Francisco
Summer - $151 + tax, SPG Hot Escapes, Member Only (8/2014)
San Francisco - Westin San Francisco Market Street
Winter - $129 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)
San Francisco- Westin St. Francis San Francisco on Union Square
Fall - $144 + tax, Best Available Rate (11/2013)
Winter - $159 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)

Colorado
Beaver Creek (Avonthe Vail Valley) - Sheraton Mountain Vista
Fall - $89 + tax, AAA (Oct/Nov 2013 until 11/21 since Vail opens on 11/22)

Florida
Ft Lauderdale - The Westin Ft Lauderdale:
Fall - $75.24 + $11% tax, SPG Hot Escapes Members Rate (10/2013)
Jacksonville - Four Points by Sheraton Jacksonville Baymeadows
Fall - $64 + tax, most weekends (Nov & Dec 2013)

Hawaii
Honolulu - Sheraton Waikiki
Winter - $196 + tax, partial ocean view, prepaid (01/2015)

Nebraska
Omaha - Sheraton Omaha
Fall - $69 incl. breakfast (09/2013)

New York
Long Island City - Four Points by Sheraton LIC/Queensboro Bridge
Fall - $188 +18.24% tax, AAA Rate over Thanksgiving weekend (11/2013)
Queens - Sheraton JFK
Summer - $148 +18.25% tax, Buy 2 get 3rd free (8/2014)
Fall - $135 +18.25% tax, Buy 2 get 3rd free (9/2014)

Virginia
Dulles/Reston - Sheraton Herndon Dulles Airport:
Fall - $59 + tax, every weekend all Fall (2013)
Dulles/Reston - Sheraton Reston:
Fall - $64 + tax, every weekend in September incl. Thursdays (09/2013)

Central & South America
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Old Oct 5, 2013, 2:15 pm
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My Westin Palace Madrid was 168 Euro per night Nov 7-11
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Old Oct 6, 2013, 9:29 pm
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Sheraton Luxor, Egypt coming in at around $59
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Old Oct 7, 2013, 12:34 am
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Originally Posted by DarkHelmetII
Sheraton Luxor, Egypt coming in at around $59
Do help to update the wiki.
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Old Oct 7, 2013, 3:23 am
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Originally Posted by DarkHelmetII
Sheraton Luxor, Egypt coming in at around $59
Cool. I find it for $49 almost all of November... but those are some crazy taxes & service charges they add! 24%, wow. Misleading rate if you don't read the fine print.
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Old Oct 7, 2013, 5:43 am
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Added 2 German properties. Thanks, OP, great idea for a new wiki ^
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Old Oct 7, 2013, 5:58 am
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Excellent idea TravelinSperry!
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Old Oct 7, 2013, 6:02 am
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Originally Posted by cln

I am not sure this wiki is really helpful.... it shows what price was available a single moment... it just makes me feel bad more to book hotels at "going" prices...
This is a very valid comment. It's unrealistic that SGS will have another price like the one mentioned.

Another example: Westin Lima was available last night for just $25!

What about a FROM x TO y formulation? Other ideas?
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Old Oct 7, 2013, 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by zagy
Excellent idea TravelinSperry!
Thanks!

Originally Posted by zagy
This is a very valid comment. It's unrealistic that SGS will have another price like the one mentioned.

Another example: Westin Lima was available last night for just $25!

What about a FROM x TO y formulation? Other ideas?
I assume you're referring to the Summer rate listed at SGS, since there are currently 2 rates listed. And I don't disagree - seems unlikely that rate comes around again - although on the other hand, if you asked me in July if that rate would ever come around I'd have bet you no (and lost obviously!). It appears the 2 outlier rates in our limited sample size come from 3rd party sites. All the others are rates available on SPG and give a good sense of a great rate.

I find the list very helpful. For example, at the Le Meridien Bangkok I now have a good sense that if I can find a 3,000 THB ++ rate I should take it. Currently, the best I can find is ~4,000 THB for Nov 2013, which is good - but not great, so I'm keeping my eyes open for a better rate.

Now, to your point, I would LOVE to grab that SGS rate - and would book it in 1 second if I could find it. Does it help us to remove/block all 3rd party rates because they are outliers? Or does it teach us to check 3rd parties more often (I'm guilty of primarily searching SPG as I want my elite benefits and don't usually bother with BRG claims). Perhaps that's a mistake on my part?

Perhaps - we should have a 4 season rate for SPG, with a 1-time per property absolute lowest 3rd party rate (anything more gets cumbersome to read). It seems helpful to know about that 3rd party website - which I've been checking like a madman since I saw that SGS rate

Thoughts?
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Old Oct 7, 2013, 11:52 am
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Great idea. My only comment so far is that if everyone really pitches in, that Wiki is going to become unusable becaue of the sheer volume of info. Probably have to split it into regions.
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Old Oct 7, 2013, 8:14 pm
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I had a $69 rate at the Sheraton Omaha, which included Breakfast on a weekend in September.

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Old Oct 7, 2013, 8:55 pm
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Wow, very impressive rates for Bangkok!
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Old Oct 8, 2013, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by enelym1978
Wow, very impressive rates for Bangkok!
Agreed! Wish I could find those 3,000 THB rates now at the Le Meridien Bangkok - best I can find now is 4,000. But at least the Westin is still 3,000
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Old Oct 9, 2013, 2:33 pm
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Since the wiki posts in this forum are restricted, unstructured and rather complicated to update, I have compiled the information of the wiki post as of today into the following Google Spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...VE&usp=sharing

If flyertalkers pick this up, I will do the same for camparable posts (SNA successes, Suite upgrade successes, plat perks) and eventually combine everyhing into a Starwood encyclopedia
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 5:43 am
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Palace Hotel (San Fran) - $199 + tax, August 2013 (BAR)
Le Meridien Bali - $135 USD + tax, August 2013 (BAR)
Sheraton on the Park - Sydney - $145 AUD inc tax, August 2012 (pre-paid)
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 7:39 am
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Originally Posted by tillephone
Since the wiki posts in this forum are restricted, unstructured and rather complicated to update, I have compiled the information of the wiki post as of today into the following Google Spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...VE&usp=sharing

If flyertalkers pick this up, I will do the same for camparable posts (SNA successes, Suite upgrade successes, plat perks) and eventually combine everyhing into a Starwood encyclopedia
I like spreadsheets, so some suggestions for improvements:
- make things sortable
- fix round numbers, e.g. 3000 THB is now shown as 3 THB
- structure extra info into different fields tax / site / extras
- fix property names according to the official naming
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