Discussion: 10 Suite Night Awards (SNAs) for Plats with 50 nights in calendar year
#2821
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
Even if the hotel were currently sold out of suites on those nights (and I have no idea if they are), shouldn't you still be allowed to put in the SNA request? I mean, there could be cancellations...
Regardless, as usual, feel free to send me any pertinent details and I'll gladly look into it further.
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William R. Sanders
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Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
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#2822
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Okinawa
Posts: 2,611
I can't believe how useless these SNA are. I have had only 1 clear this whole year and have 10/10 about to expire. I'm 2 stays away from requalifying for Platinum and debating if it is even worth it to requalify.
#2824
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold / OnBusiness, SPG Lifetime Plat 100, AmEx Centurion & BAPP, Superking Westin Heavenly Bed :)
Posts: 1,142
Are you also unhappy with the Platinum benefits, or just the SNAs? If so - separate the two. Just because you feel SNAs are worthless, you should consider the merits of being Platinum individually.
#2825
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Michigan
Programs: AA EXP(4mm), DL Gold, UA Gold (1mm), HH Diamond, Bonvoy Amb(l/t Titanium). Former EA/PA elite
Posts: 994
While I too would struggle to put a value on SNA's - Platinum itself is definitely a benefit worth having IMO, and has saved me considerable amounts of money over the year (wifi, breakfast, upgrades, early/late checkout, the extra attention and freebies I often find in my room etc..)
Are you also unhappy with the Platinum benefits, or just the SNAs? If so - separate the two. Just because you feel SNAs are worthless, you should consider the merits of being Platinum individually.
Are you also unhappy with the Platinum benefits, or just the SNAs? If so - separate the two. Just because you feel SNAs are worthless, you should consider the merits of being Platinum individually.
#2826
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,748
Going to share some positive experiences to balance things off.
I've cleared 9 of the 10 that were expiring this year. Haven't really got a stay planned that needs the 10th so it will probably expire.
I'm happy with the programme. I used 7 on a trip to S America and got the upgrades 5 days out. I'm not sure if I would have gotten the upgrades at check-in but it doesn't matter, I got what I needed, when I wanted them. In two cases I was further upgraded, a double and a triple upgrade.
I don't check the hotel thread too much to guesstimate whether the hotel has a reputation for upgrading at checkin, and apply the SNAs fairly liberally. I travel for leisure so I don't have one big trip a year that really needs the SNAs which does make it easier and maybe less disappointing when things don't pan out.
If they were to amend the programme or remove the SNAs completely, I hope they will remember that there are those of us who find the programme very useful and make an effort to hit >50 each year.
I've cleared 9 of the 10 that were expiring this year. Haven't really got a stay planned that needs the 10th so it will probably expire.
I'm happy with the programme. I used 7 on a trip to S America and got the upgrades 5 days out. I'm not sure if I would have gotten the upgrades at check-in but it doesn't matter, I got what I needed, when I wanted them. In two cases I was further upgraded, a double and a triple upgrade.
I don't check the hotel thread too much to guesstimate whether the hotel has a reputation for upgrading at checkin, and apply the SNAs fairly liberally. I travel for leisure so I don't have one big trip a year that really needs the SNAs which does make it easier and maybe less disappointing when things don't pan out.
If they were to amend the programme or remove the SNAs completely, I hope they will remember that there are those of us who find the programme very useful and make an effort to hit >50 each year.
#2827
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: perth
Programs: SPG(LTG), QANTAS gold, Korean, Accor Plat
Posts: 1,500
#2828
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: ORD, MKE
Programs: Bonvoy LT Gold, Hilton Silver, Hyatt Discoverist, Hertz PC, National EE
Posts: 710
Totally agree Plat status is worth it in and of itself and SNAs don't add much. I've had better luck getting Plat upgrades at check-in than with SNAs, and several times got a Plat upgrade even when the SNA failed to clear. I also agree SNAs can be a frustration, but they've been worth more than I paid for them so I appreciate the benefit.
#2829
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SFO
Programs: AA ExPlat,EX-UA 1K, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat,
Posts: 12,212
#2830
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ATL
Programs: UA Global Services, Bonvoy LT Titanium, National EE
Posts: 887
Another negative experience here. In town stay at the St Regis in Atlanta, multiple suites showing available 4 days out (and confirmed by Plat desk), and only an email the day before arrival stating that the award didn't clear. Contemplated paying $ for the upgrade and booking the suite direct, but figured if my SNA currency isn't good enough, then neither is my money. Called the hotel direct and was basically told I should just cancel my reservation.
#2831
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,168
Another negative experience here. In town stay at the St Regis in Atlanta, multiple suites showing available 4 days out (and confirmed by Plat desk), and only an email the day before arrival stating that the award didn't clear. Contemplated paying $ for the upgrade and booking the suite direct, but figured if my SNA currency isn't good enough, then neither is my money. Called the hotel direct and was basically told I should just cancel my reservation.
#2832
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: New York, NY, USA
Posts: 12,482
I like SNAs. Sometimes they clear sometimes they don't. I wished Starwood would grant 5 extra SNAs for every 25 nights beyond 50.
#2833
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: New York, NY, USA
Posts: 12,482
Have you confirmed that those suites are eligible to SNA and you have selected those suite types in your request?
#2834
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
A dummy booking only shows what the property is willing to sell, it does not show what's been allocated to SNAs or even truly available as they may allow overbooking. This is part of the lack of transparency SPG has built into the program and should be eliminated. If they can't provide it to us, at least let their own reps see what's happening.
#2835
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,168
A dummy booking only shows what the property is willing to sell, it does not show what's been allocated to SNAs or even truly available as they may allow overbooking. This is part of the lack of transparency SPG has built into the program and should be eliminated. If they can't provide it to us, at least let their own reps see what's happening.