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Old Jan 10, 13, 6:57 pm   #1
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Thumbs down Free 'Standard' internet only is an insult to Plats

Don't often post in these parts but had to today as I find the Standard vs Premium internet offering that seems to be popping up at numerous Starwood properties (Westins particularly) an absolute joke.

For the uninitiated, upon logging onto the internet, you are given two options. Standard internet access (free to Platinums) or Premium, which everyone has to pay for.

Now, I'd be happy to pay the extra if the two services were like this:

Standard: How the service was before the 'tiering' was introduced
Premium: A new, super-fast service that was noticeably faster and worth the extra.

However, the reality goes like this.

Premium: How the service was before the 'tiering' was introduced
Standard: A throttled, bottle-necked, slowed down service to try and force people into paying for Premium.

The difference between the two is only $6-10 or so, but as a 75+ night Plat with Ambassador service, I just find it a bit of an insult. I spend a huge amount of money with Starwood (on my own dime as I'm self-employed) and it riles me when I get nickel & dimed over internet access, especially when I'm generally treated very well by SPG.

Even someone just qualifying for Plat is a) probably spending a decent amount with Starwood, and b) is probably a business traveller, and therefore unlikely to be able to tolerate the unusably slow 'Standard' internet speeds. Would it really be that much of a big deal to offer your best customers the full speed of your internet connection?

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Old Jan 10, 13, 7:01 pm   #2
 
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Are you sure this is the policy? i have never been charged for any internet regardless of what option I choose. (I usually choose the Premium)
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Old Jan 10, 13, 7:35 pm   #3
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In the past, I've been told to pick whichever I wanted, and it would be free to me as a plat.
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Old Jan 10, 13, 7:40 pm   #4
 
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I'm pretty sure a Lurker has confirmed somewhere before that Plats always have complimentary "Premium" internet service.
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Old Jan 10, 13, 7:40 pm   #5
 
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Only in India have I been told I couldn't use the fast one as Platinum. Otherwise, most other locations allow the top tier use.
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Old Jan 10, 13, 7:51 pm   #6
 
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Don't often post in these parts but had to today as I find the Standard vs Premium internet offering that seems to be popping up at numerous Starwood properties (Westins particularly) an absolute joke.

For the uninitiated, upon logging onto the internet, you are given two options. Standard internet access (free to Platinums) or Premium, which everyone has to pay for.

Now, I'd be happy to pay the extra if the two services were like this:

Standard: How the service was before the 'tiering' was introduced
Premium: A new, super-fast service that was noticeably faster and worth the extra.

However, the reality goes like this.

Premium: How the service was before the 'tiering' was introduced
Standard: A throttled, bottle-necked, slowed down service to try and force people into paying for Premium.

The difference between the two is only $6-10 or so, but as a 75+ night Plat with Ambassador service, I just find it a bit of an insult. I spend a huge amount of money with Starwood (on my own dime as I'm self-employed) and it riles me when I get nickel & dimed over internet access, especially when I'm generally treated very well by SPG.

Even someone just qualifying for Plat is a) probably spending a decent amount with Starwood, and b) is probably a business traveller, and therefore unlikely to be able to tolerate the unusably slow 'Standard' internet speeds. Would it really be that much of a big deal to offer your best customers the full speed of your internet connection?

First, I have not yet encountered such issues. Perhaps you can state which hotels you faced such problems, or at least the region.

However, if what you said is true, then this is indeed quite sad. Plats should not be treated like beggars. It is like saying, water from the tap is "free"; "standard" package means you get droplets of water and you need 5 mins to fill up a cup to brush your teeth. Pay for "premium", and you get normal flowing water. But they have fulfilled the promise of "free" tap water.

Perhaps OP can share more details.
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Old Jan 10, 13, 7:53 pm   #7
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If you encounter a hotel that does not allow you to choose the highest available speed of internet service, where the option exists, you need to contact Corporate Customer Service and issue a formal complaint.

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Best regards,

William R. Sanders
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New Benefit for Platinum Members of SPG (free internet)

I've had no problems anywhere. Including India.

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Old Jan 10, 13, 8:44 pm   #8
 
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Gaz, Plats get highest speed.

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Old Jan 10, 13, 9:08 pm   #9
 
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Gaz, Plats get highest speed.

Cheers,
Then what's up with the misleading speed selection screen? This smells like a money-grab from the uninformed (that plat get free internet, regardless of speed package).
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Old Jan 10, 13, 9:12 pm   #10
 
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The Sheraton in Kansas City, MO is extremely insistent that platinums do NOT get the premium internet, only standard.
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Old Jan 10, 13, 10:13 pm   #11
 
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Or you get a voucher which is prepared only for a special type. Most time the slower one...
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Old Jan 11, 13, 3:31 am   #12
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The difference between the two is only $6-10 or so, but as a 75+ night Plat with Ambassador service, I just find it a bit of an insult. I spend a huge amount of money with Starwood (on my own dime as I'm self-employed) and it riles me when I get nickel & dimed over internet access, especially when I'm generally treated very well by SPG.
A few oddities here.

First, premium internet service has always been included for Platinums, at least in every property I have stayed at around the world.

Second, if you are Plat75 then why do you have an Ambassador?
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Old Jan 11, 13, 3:32 am   #13
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The Sheraton in Kansas City, MO is extremely insistent that platinums do NOT get the premium internet, only standard.
Hopefully Lurker can come in and clarify, but pretty sure premium internet is included and this Sheraton should be reported.
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Old Jan 11, 13, 3:40 am   #14
 
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First, premium internet service has always been included for Platinums, at least in every property I have stayed at around the world.
As Forstbetrieb stated, sometimes you're only offered one speed, and that's not the premium internet. I came across such an issue at the Westin SFO about 18 months ago:
Westin SFO San Francisco Airport [Master Thread]

I haven't been back to see if they've fixed it.

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Second, if you are Plat75 then why do you have an Ambassador?
Ambassador is 100 nights+, or if you had previously qualified under special conditions.
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Old Jan 11, 13, 3:49 am   #15
 
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As Forstbetrieb stated, sometimes you're only offered one speed, and that's not the premium internet. I came across such an issue at the Westin SFO about 18 months ago:
Westin SFO San Francisco Airport [Master Thread]

I haven't been back to see if they've fixed it.



Ambassador is 100 nights+, or if you had previously qualified under special conditions.
I have had an ambassador since the beginning of the program and never done 100 nights a year. Still don't know what got me the privilege.
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