I have kids. I take them into the club lounge. They are usually better behaved then some adult sitting in the corner drinking, being loud and leaving a mess. For us, we always try to respectful and have our kids be the same. Sometimes they arent prefect but we try.
And you know what, the lounge attendants usually always welcome us back and try to make room for us.
O, maybe that is because we also leave a small tip each time. Or maybe just cause we try to be good.
I think peoople missed the OP's original comment which I agree with. People being selfish - taking a lot of food then taking more food out of the lounge. Not sure why there are some who are making this a "kid issue." I think that hogging food and not leaving it for others is just selfish. Pure and simple.
.. Many business travellers don't have generous expense accounts or are just too tired after a long day to head out to a restaurant. I don't want to play the 'female' card, but my company doesn't pay for a car rental and as such I have to either walk in unknown neighbourhoods at night to a restaurant, or take a cab, once again at my expense as I am no longer on company business after hours. I use the lounge for the same reason as you - less aggrevation and to save money (it may come as a surprise but many business travellers have a limited meal allowance which does not permit eating out in restaurants every night or even in the hotel restaurant). I may also just want a snack instead of a complete meal and thus the lounge. I would view the lounge as no different than a restaurant re kids and the same guidelines whould be used.
And there are the same reasons i pick hotels with lounges when i travel with kids. I am not gonna wonder around looking for unknown restaurants or go to your corner junk food places - lounges are perfect for feeding young kids (aged 2 in our case) who really need a snack and a glass of juice or milk.
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.. The CL is a place for adults, period! ...
I diagree, IMO clubs are by far more useful for families. As a matter of fact only after having kids we started specifically booking club rooms (if not available via status) while in the past i could easily get out to find street food or bar or more proper restaurant when alone or with SO. Those options are longer practical with young kids.
We just got back from a trip to asia with stays at Conrad, Fairmont and Hyatt - in all cases lounges were absolutely ideal for the purpose.
That being said we always try to make sure kids behave and minimize any disturbance to others. On the other hand i've seen my share of semi-drunk loud adults in lounges..
Again I say, I don't have an issue with kids, however I view the club lounge as an upscale semi-private area for adults to relax, have a drink and some food in the company of other adults (Single adults, couples or business people, no families, no pets), like a bar or lounge. Nothing more, nothing less, is it so bad? To someone else it might be something different and I respect that. Enjoy!
As a side note: I don't even drink alcohol and my wife doesn't either, so I would also have issues with drunks in the corners! LOL
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I think peoople missed the OP's original comment which I agree with. People being selfish - taking a lot of food then taking more food out of the lounge. Not sure why there are some who are making this a "kid issue." I think that hogging food and not leaving it for others is just selfish. Pure and simple.
True. And I agree that the hogging food issue is as flagrant as the kid issue... Indeed.
I think peoople missed the OP's original comment which I agree with. People being selfish - taking a lot of food then taking more food out of the lounge. Not sure why there are some who are making this a "kid issue." I think that hogging food and not leaving it for others is just selfish. Pure and simple.
cruiser9999 made this a kid issue. She brought up kids 5 times in her original post, talked about families with kids taking extra food and kids running up and down the halls.
Sorry, but there are bad acting adults like there are bad acting kids.
A century ago (or even 30 years ago) kids were respectful and polite and there were fewer issues. Today many parents want to be their kids' friend instead of a parent and that Is where the problem lies. I am constantly amazed at how kids talk back to their parents when asked to behave (and NOTE that I said ASKED, not TOLD by their parents to behave). Many business travellers don't have generous expense accounts or are just too tired after a long day to head out to a restaurant. I don't want to play the 'female' card, but my company doesn't pay for a car rental and as such I have to either walk in unknown neighbourhoods at night to a restaurant, or take a cab, once again at my expense as I am no longer on company business after hours. I use the lounge for the same reason as you - less aggrevation and to save money (it may come as a surprise but many business travellers have a limited meal allowance which does not permit eating out in restaurants every night or even in the hotel restaurant). I may also just want a snack instead of a complete meal and thus the lounge. I would view the lounge as no different than a restaurant re kids and the same guidelines whould be used.
Sounds like you really have an issue with your employers travel policy. I think you should take it up with them. Most companies I know are in the $35 - $75 range per day. For me, unless I go to a really nice restaurant, I stay well below the company policy.
And If I really want to be cheap, I hit a store on the way to the hotel.
As others have said, this is prime family travel time. Planes are full, hotels are full, restaurants are full.
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cruiser9999 made this a kid issue. She brought up kids 5 times in her original post, talked about families with kids taking extra food and kids running up and down the halls.
Sorry, but there are bad acting adults like there are bad acting kids.
Yes, and bad acting kids are usually the direct result of bad acting adults. It's a shame you have to have a license to get married, but not to have children.
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In some hotels, it's called the executive lounge for a reason: it's for the use of upscale business travelers, not children.
I've witnessed, and hotel employees/managers have commented to me, that it frequently happens that a large family group will book/pay to upgrade one room to have lounge access and then plan for the entire hoard to meet at the lounge for free food, where one person with access holds the door open for everyone. I've seen family groups of about ten or twenty take over a lounge, move furniture, and discourage others from using the lounge. I wish more hotel managers and staff just had the guts to kick them out when they disturb others or cheat on the hotel's lounge access rules.
In some hotels, it's called the executive lounge for a reason: it's for the use of upscale business travelers, not children.
I've witnessed, and hotel employees/managers have commented to me, that it frequently happens that a large family group will book/pay to upgrade one room to have lounge access and then plan for the entire hoard to meet at the lounge for free food, where one person with access holds the door open for everyone. I've seen family groups of about ten or twenty take over a lounge, move furniture, and discourage others from using the lounge. I wish more hotel managers and staff just had the guts to kick them out when they disturb others or cheat on the hotel's lounge access rules.
I am pretty sure this is what I have seen on my past two stay w/ club lounges. One included a youth soccer team and the other a youth basketball team ... one person lets in all the teammates. No seats available and definitely not a pleasant atmosphere. Of course the occasion with the basketball team also included a group of adults passing around a bottle of whiskey, acting obnoxiously, and speaking very loudly. ... my wife and I quickly left.
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In some hotels, it's called the executive lounge for a reason: it's for the use of upscale business travelers, not children.
I've witnessed, and hotel employees/managers have commented to me, that it frequently happens that a large family group will book/pay to upgrade one room to have lounge access and then plan for the entire hoard to meet at the lounge for free food, where one person with access holds the door open for everyone. I've seen family groups of about ten or twenty take over a lounge, move furniture, and discourage others from using the lounge. I wish more hotel managers and staff just had the guts to kick them out when they disturb others or cheat on the hotel's lounge access rules.
Executive Lounge is just a fancy name to attract business customers to the hotel lol....... "Executive" is just an adjective
Again I say, I don't have an issue with kids, however I view the club lounge as an upscale semi-private area for adults to relax, have a drink and some food in the company of other adults (Single adults, couples or business people, no families, no pets), like a bar or lounge. Nothing more, nothing less, is it so bad? To someone else it might be something different and I respect that. Enjoy!
As a side note: I don't even drink alcohol and my wife doesn't either, so I would also have issues with drunks in the corners! LOL
I view the club lounge as place for guests who have access to the CL regardless of age, I guess my opinion differs from yours
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In some hotels, it's called the executive lounge for a reason: it's for the use of upscale business travelers, not children.
I've witnessed, and hotel employees/managers have commented to me, that it frequently happens that a large family group will book/pay to upgrade one room to have lounge access and then plan for the entire hoard to meet at the lounge for free food, where one person with access holds the door open for everyone. I've seen family groups of about ten or twenty take over a lounge, move furniture, and discourage others from using the lounge. I wish more hotel managers and staff just had the guts to kick them out when they disturb others or cheat on the hotel's lounge access rules.
So these hotels better start validating your job title then before entering the lounge and get written verification that you are indeed considered an executive with your employer
thats the hotel's job to monitor and take control of (those who abuse the rules of entry) and if they don't your complaint should be that it doesn't enforce its own rules of entry
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