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Old Apr 23, 12, 9:40 pm   #406
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I can now independently confirm after having a peek of internal Starwood memo about this promotion that information LovetoTravel83 posted earlier is indeed correct.
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Old Apr 23, 12, 9:49 pm   #407
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You sound just like my wife. Couldn't be simpler. The values of each option per paid night in $US are:

OPTION 1
Double Points beginning with 2nd stay. No limits. 2 x aR x vP x (N-1)/N
OPTION 2
Every 6 nights, get 3k Starpoints (max of 9k) 500 x vP x N/N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 6 and 0<N<24
OPTION 3
Earn 500 bonus Starpoints per night at Sheratons worldwide (no limits). Online-bookings ONLY 500 x Ns x vP/N
OPTION 4
Stay 15 nights, get Triple Starpoints on all stays retroactively. No limits. 4 x aR x vP
OPTION 5
10 nights, get 1 Free Weekend Night (cat 1-5). Max of 2 Awards. Weekends are Thurs, Fri, Sat, and Sun. Rp x vP/N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 10 and 0<N<30
OPTION 6
Stay 20 nights, get 1 25% percent off redemption Award (cat 1-5). Max of 2 Awards Rp x vP/4N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 20 and 0<N<60
OPTION 7
Stay 4 nights; get US$50 SPG Award Cert (max of 3) $50N/4N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 4 and 0<N<16
OPTION 8
Stay 4 nights; get $50 or EUR50 Westin @ home discount code (max of 3) Ditto with allowance made for Euro or $
OPTION 9
Stay 4 nights, get $50 or EUR50 Sheraton @ home discount code (max of 3) Ditto with allowance made for Euro or $
OPTION 10
Stay 5 nights, earn 1 bonus night toward elite status (max of 3 elite qualifying nights). Priceless or worthless depending on your circumstances
OPTION 11
Stay 10 nights, earn 3 bonus nights toward elite status (max of 6 nights). Ditto

Where aR = average room rate paid per night in $US
vP = value in $US you ascribe to 1 SPG point
N = number of paid nights stayed in SPG properties
Ns = number of nights stayed in Sheraton brand properties
Rp = Points required for redemption of award night/s

What could be simpler
I like the way you think.
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Old Apr 23, 12, 10:13 pm   #408
 
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I can now independently confirm after having a peek of internal Starwood memo about this promotion that information LovetoTravel83 posted earlier is indeed correct.
nothing is confirmed until I hear it from the horse's mouth.. Chime in SPG insider, Lurker......
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You sound just like my wife. Couldn't be simpler. The values of each option per paid night in $US are:

OPTION 1
Double Points beginning with 2nd stay. No limits. 2 x aR x vP x (N-1)/N
OPTION 2
Every 6 nights, get 3k Starpoints (max of 9k) 500 x vP x N/N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 6 and 0<N<24
OPTION 3
Earn 500 bonus Starpoints per night at Sheratons worldwide (no limits). Online-bookings ONLY 500 x Ns x vP/N
OPTION 4
Stay 15 nights, get Triple Starpoints on all stays retroactively. No limits. 4 x aR x vP
OPTION 5
10 nights, get 1 Free Weekend Night (cat 1-5). Max of 2 Awards. Weekends are Thurs, Fri, Sat, and Sun. Rp x vP/N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 10 and 0<N<30
OPTION 6
Stay 20 nights, get 1 25% percent off redemption Award (cat 1-5). Max of 2 Awards Rp x vP/4N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 20 and 0<N<60
OPTION 7
Stay 4 nights; get US$50 SPG Award Cert (max of 3) $50N/4N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 4 and 0<N<16
OPTION 8
Stay 4 nights; get $50 or EUR50 Westin @ home discount code (max of 3) Ditto with allowance made for Euro or $
OPTION 9
Stay 4 nights, get $50 or EUR50 Sheraton @ home discount code (max of 3) Ditto with allowance made for Euro or $
OPTION 10
Stay 5 nights, earn 1 bonus night toward elite status (max of 3 elite qualifying nights). Priceless or worthless depending on your circumstances
OPTION 11
Stay 10 nights, earn 3 bonus nights toward elite status (max of 6 nights). Ditto

Where aR = average room rate paid per night in $US
vP = value in $US you ascribe to 1 SPG point
N = number of paid nights stayed in SPG properties
Ns = number of nights stayed in Sheraton brand properties
Rp = Points required for redemption of award night/s

What could be simpler
Like I said earlier, this promotion requires a calculator and maths. Except you apparently used one of those big graphing calculators with the extra buttons that plotted all 11 points on a curve. Never thought one could use the words "integer" and "promotion" in the same sentence.
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Old Apr 23, 12, 10:32 pm   #410
 
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Never thought one could use the words "integer" and "promotion" in the same sentence.
LMAO
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Old Apr 23, 12, 11:27 pm   #411
 
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You sound just like my wife. Couldn't be simpler. The values of each option per paid night in $US are:

OPTION 1
Double Points beginning with 2nd stay. No limits. 2 x aR x vP x (N-1)/N
OPTION 2
Every 6 nights, get 3k Starpoints (max of 9k) 500 x vP x N/N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 6 and 0<N<24
OPTION 3
Earn 500 bonus Starpoints per night at Sheratons worldwide (no limits). Online-bookings ONLY 500 x Ns x vP/N
OPTION 4
Stay 15 nights, get Triple Starpoints on all stays retroactively. No limits. 4 x aR x vP
OPTION 5
10 nights, get 1 Free Weekend Night (cat 1-5). Max of 2 Awards. Weekends are Thurs, Fri, Sat, and Sun. Rp x vP/N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 10 and 0<N<30
OPTION 6
Stay 20 nights, get 1 25% percent off redemption Award (cat 1-5). Max of 2 Awards Rp x vP/4N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 20 and 0<N<60
OPTION 7
Stay 4 nights; get US$50 SPG Award Cert (max of 3) $50N/4N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 4 and 0<N<16
OPTION 8
Stay 4 nights; get $50 or EUR50 Westin @ home discount code (max of 3) Ditto with allowance made for Euro or $
OPTION 9
Stay 4 nights, get $50 or EUR50 Sheraton @ home discount code (max of 3) Ditto with allowance made for Euro or $
OPTION 10
Stay 5 nights, earn 1 bonus night toward elite status (max of 3 elite qualifying nights). Priceless or worthless depending on your circumstances
OPTION 11
Stay 10 nights, earn 3 bonus nights toward elite status (max of 6 nights). Ditto

Where aR = average room rate paid per night in $US
vP = value in $US you ascribe to 1 SPG point
N = number of paid nights stayed in SPG properties
Ns = number of nights stayed in Sheraton brand properties
Rp = Points required for redemption of award night/s

What could be simpler
can't wait to see the final program in java
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Old Apr 23, 12, 11:41 pm   #412
 
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can't wait to see the final program in java
the legal terms and conditions must be at least 200 pages thick just to cover all the possible promotion combinations
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Old Apr 23, 12, 11:54 pm   #413
 
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You sound just like my wife. Couldn't be simpler. The values of each option per paid night in $US are:

OPTION 1
Double Points beginning with 2nd stay. No limits. 2 x aR x vP x (N-1)/N
OPTION 2
Every 6 nights, get 3k Starpoints (max of 9k) 500 x vP x N/N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 6 and 0<N<24
OPTION 3
Earn 500 bonus Starpoints per night at Sheratons worldwide (no limits). Online-bookings ONLY 500 x Ns x vP/N
OPTION 4
Stay 15 nights, get Triple Starpoints on all stays retroactively. No limits. 4 x aR x vP
OPTION 5
10 nights, get 1 Free Weekend Night (cat 1-5). Max of 2 Awards. Weekends are Thurs, Fri, Sat, and Sun. Rp x vP/N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 10 and 0<N<30
OPTION 6
Stay 20 nights, get 1 25% percent off redemption Award (cat 1-5). Max of 2 Awards Rp x vP/4N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 20 and 0<N<60
OPTION 7
Stay 4 nights; get US$50 SPG Award Cert (max of 3) $50N/4N where N must be an integer wholly divisible by 4 and 0<N<16
OPTION 8
Stay 4 nights; get $50 or EUR50 Westin @ home discount code (max of 3) Ditto with allowance made for Euro or $
OPTION 9
Stay 4 nights, get $50 or EUR50 Sheraton @ home discount code (max of 3) Ditto with allowance made for Euro or $
OPTION 10
Stay 5 nights, earn 1 bonus night toward elite status (max of 3 elite qualifying nights). Priceless or worthless depending on your circumstances
OPTION 11
Stay 10 nights, earn 3 bonus nights toward elite status (max of 6 nights). Ditto

Where aR = average room rate paid per night in $US
vP = value in $US you ascribe to 1 SPG point
N = number of paid nights stayed in SPG properties
Ns = number of nights stayed in Sheraton brand properties
Rp = Points required for redemption of award night/s

What could be simpler
nice work.some observation:

1. in option one, N should be defined as the number of paid nights in SPG properties after first stay.

2. I believe your output units in option 5 and 6 are not consistent with the rest of options.

3. Option 2 could be simplified by eliminating N/N

if you look at it from maximizing starpoint earning then

OPTION 1
Double Points beginning with 2nd stay. No limits. 2 x aR x N where N is the total number of nights spent in Starwood Hotels after first stay.
OPTION 2
Every 6 nights, get 3k Starpoints (max of 9k) either 3000, 6000 or 9000 points. depends on N 3000 points if 5<N<12, 6000 points if 11<N<18, 9000 points if N>17
OPTION 3
Earn 500 bonus Starpoints per night at Sheratons worldwide (no limits). Online-bookings ONLY 500 x Ns
OPTION 4
Stay 15 nights, get Triple Starpoints on all stays retroactively. No limits. 4 x aR x N
OPTION 5
10 nights, get 1 Free Weekend Night (cat 1-5). Max of 2 Awards. Weekends are Thurs, Fri, Sat, and Sun. min. 4000 point,max. 32000 points depending on N and Category
OPTION 6
Stay 20 nights, get 1 25% percent off redemption Award (cat 1-5). Max of 2 Awards Min. 1000 points, Max. 32000 points depending on N and Category assuming C&P awards are excluded.
OPTION 7
Stay 4 nights; get US$50 SPG Award Cert (max of 3) $50/Vp if 3<N<8, $100/Vp if 7<N<12 , $150,Vp if N>11

Last edited by KSA_USA; Apr 24, 12 at 12:28 am.. Reason: add option 7
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Old Apr 24, 12, 12:11 am   #414
 
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Like I said earlier, this promotion requires a calculator and maths. Except you apparently used one of those big graphing calculators with the extra buttons that plotted all 11 points on a curve. Never thought one could use the words "integer" and "promotion" in the same sentence.
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nice work.some observation:

1. in option one, N should be defined as the number of paid nights in SPG properties after first stay.

2. I believe your output units in option 5 and 6 are not consistent with the rest of options.

3. Option 2 could be simplified by eliminating N/N
I actually just threw a Scrabble set into a Food Processor and that post was the output -You are right regarding option 1 but I do think the Food Processor got it right with the seemingly redundant N/N in Option 2 which was required because there was some need to incorporate the maximum and multiple restrictions ( The Scrabble set did not have any asterisks) and I do believe that the output units in Option 5 and 6 are $US/night as in the other options but would happily yield to a superior food processor
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Old Apr 24, 12, 12:45 am   #415
 
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I actually just threw a Scrabble set into a Food Processor and that post was the output -You are right regarding option 1 but I do think the Food Processor got it right with the seemingly redundant N/N in Option 2 which was required because there was some need to incorporate the maximum and multiple restrictions ( The Scrabble set did not have any asterisks) and I do believe that the output units in Option 5 and 6 are $US/night as in the other options but would happily yield to a superior food processor
your food processor did a great job

your option 5 and 6 units are US$/(night)**2. i could be wrong. its pass midnight where i am now
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Old Apr 24, 12, 1:24 am   #416
 
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Also, what makes Option 1 even better for me is that my employer will be paying for most of the nights, so I would never choose C&P.

Your second option makes sense if all nights are on your dime and you value points at $0.0264 or less.
Thank you for correcting that C+P do not collect points.

With your employer paying for the qualifying stays, you are making a wise choice.

I have 5 paid Sheraton nights already confirmed first week of May. So my options are:

If I stay no more nights during promo period
1) 5nights=1 elite night - Based on my plans for rest of year, this would put me over to Gold based on nights

If I want to go for Platinum
1) Use C+P and ignore the promotion is the best option

So from this analysis sounds like I'll take the 1 elite night and ignore the rest of the promotion.
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Old Apr 24, 12, 2:48 am   #417
 
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your option 5 and 6 units are US$/(night)**2. i could be wrong. its pass midnight where i am now
No, you are right $US/(nights squared) - last time I'll buy a kitchen appliance from the Home Shopping Network

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Old Apr 24, 12, 5:30 am   #418
 
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I can now independently confirm after having a peek of internal Starwood memo about this promotion that information LovetoTravel83 posted earlier is indeed correct.
If this is true, spg should start putting on its flame repellant suit because it really S...s! If this is true, I will be looking forward to what other programs will be offering.

But I question if LovetoTravel83 information is the real deal because if one look at the following 2 options from his post, why would anyone select the first when the 2nd have no limit. The Promo Gods at spg can't be that dumb... or can they

1) Every 6 nights, get 3k Starpoints (max of 9k)
2) Earn 500 bonus Starpoints per night at Sheratons worldwide (no limits). Online-bookings ONLY
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Old Apr 24, 12, 5:39 am   #419
 
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If this is true, spg should start putting on its flame repellant suit because it really S...s! If this is true, I will be looking forward to what other programs will be offering.

But I question if LovetoTravel83 information is the real deal because if one look at the following 2 options from his post, why would anyone select the first when the 2nd have no limit. The Promo Gods at spg can't be that dumb... or can they

1) Every 6 nights, get 3k Starpoints (max of 9k)
2) Earn 500 bonus Starpoints per night at Sheratons worldwide (no limits). Online-bookings ONLY
Because the second is limited to Sheraton brand only ?
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Old Apr 24, 12, 5:43 am   #420
 
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If what they say is true, this "promo" (which is supposed to drive people to spend with them) will absolutely do the opposite. I'll do the bare minimum to make my status and for the first time ever move over to Marriott or Hilton.

I really hope it's not the case. I like SPG a lot. I've been loyal to them since 1999 but I'm now wavering. This is just not worth it. Over hype.
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