Air China flight operated by El-Al
Jun 24, 2015, 12:44 am
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You got credit for Alaska flight due to Original Mileage Credit, i.e. you booked on UA, but due to delay or cancelation, UA had to put you on someone else, but you can request and earn the miles you would have gotten as if you had flown your original UA flight. In this case, you could earn miles on Alaska programs too.
But this is totally different than if you go out and book an Alaska flight on your own, even on UA ticket, which is the case for OP.
As others have said gruimed has 0 chance to get miles. You cannot even earn on Air China's Phoenix miles as El-Al is not a partner.
But this is totally different than if you go out and book an Alaska flight on your own, even on UA ticket, which is the case for OP.
As others have said gruimed has 0 chance to get miles. You cannot even earn on Air China's Phoenix miles as El-Al is not a partner.
Jun 24, 2015, 2:56 am
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I'd strongly suspect the same. That's typically the case, you can get miles on the marketing carrier's FFP but not partners of the marketing carrier if the operating carrier is off-alliance.
Jun 24, 2015, 6:25 am
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http://www.airchina.com/ae/en/phoeni...accrual2.shtml
CA also codeshare with Finnair but you cannot earn miles on those flights after CA joined Star. (link in Chinese)
http://fi.mofcom.gov.cn/article/slfw...06226167.shtml
Jun 24, 2015, 6:41 am
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CX/KA, CI and VS are listed as partners for Phoenix miles but El-Al is not.
http://www.airchina.com/ae/en/phoeni...accrual2.shtml
CA also codeshare with Finnair but you cannot earn miles on those flights after CA joined Star. (link in Chinese)
http://fi.mofcom.gov.cn/article/slfw...06226167.shtml
http://www.airchina.com/ae/en/phoeni...accrual2.shtml
CA also codeshare with Finnair but you cannot earn miles on those flights after CA joined Star. (link in Chinese)
http://fi.mofcom.gov.cn/article/slfw...06226167.shtml
Jun 25, 2015, 12:21 am
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Gruimed didn't specify if he intended to credits miles an UA account or not. I also agree with your arguments applying those CA tickets for an UA account.
I was arguing on general applicability, and therefore still asume that there is a good chance that LH would credit CA-K flown by ELAL with 100% of the flown miles to an LH account based on the arguments made above. Again they may not since LH rules are often to vague and if you ask 4 time you will get at list 6 answers during the call, which may not even be true in the end.
I was arguing on general applicability, and therefore still asume that there is a good chance that LH would credit CA-K flown by ELAL with 100% of the flown miles to an LH account based on the arguments made above. Again they may not since LH rules are often to vague and if you ask 4 time you will get at list 6 answers during the call, which may not even be true in the end.
Jun 25, 2015, 1:16 am
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Jun 25, 2015, 4:38 pm
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Operated by does mean just that - viz "operated by" - but, paint has nothing to do with it. Airlines occasionally operate flights in aircraft painted in other airlines' liveries. Airlines sometimes lease-in aircraft, without crews, that are painted in the livery of a second carrier, and operate them themselves. Likewise, airlines sometimes purchase used aircraft and put them into immediate service without repainting them. What matters is not the paint, it is the air operator's license and the crew which count.