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Old Feb 12, 12, 8:45 am   #1
 
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'12 Honeymoon RTW (Expert help needed)

Hey all!

Been a lurker for a long, long time and finally decided to ask a few questions.

I live in Eastern Europe and I am planning my upcoming honeymoon later this year. Going to Bora Bora for 2 weeks and always wanted to try something different than the "cattle class" I am used with

Here's what I came up with. I am a total newbie, even though I spent hours reading about fares/surcharges/etc ... Your thoughts? The final amount before booking is 12,500 EUR for two.

It's xCPH as it's closest to me and cheapest starting point.



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Old Feb 12, 12, 12:52 pm   #2
 
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First Congrats!

Looking at your trip, not sure why CPH is the cheapest, maybe because your last segment on TG is an old 2 classs 747. But then again departure tax in Germany is getting out of hand too.

Here is my suggestion, on your outbound to US, can you get from CPH to FRA/MUC/ZRH on LH/LX or even IST on TK and fly direct to LAX? Transiting from international to Domestic in ORD is pain in general. And less UACO domestic the better.


NZ on certain days do fly LAX-PPT direct (ex, Sunday), this will save you some 5000+ miles and segments on back track from AKL. I think that will drop you a price category(<29,000 miles) and give you plenty of room to add another stop if you want. (Ex. HKG)

Nevermind, forgot NZ no longer fly that route, only codeshare now.

On your last leg, if you can get TG BKK-FRA/CDG on 773, it will have nicer seat than the BKK-CPH direct.
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Old Feb 12, 12, 7:57 pm   #3
 
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Congratulations!!!

One suggestion - I am assuming you're flying to CPH to start your trip from Bulgaria, right? Have you thought about starting from IST instead of CPH? Price should come out roughly the same, you could fly directly to LAX, and the C product on TK will be nicer than SAS. I know it's very easy to get to IST from most of Eastern Europe, so just thought it might be an nice alternative.
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Old Feb 13, 12, 1:53 am   #4
 
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Thank you!

dcmike, you're right. Acutally, IST would be cheaper and a lot easier to reach from Bulgaria. Thanks for the tip!

Let me see how the changes will affect the itinerary.
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It won't work. Choosing IST as start/end point bumps the total to 16k eur immediately. It's because as per http://www.wandr.me/RTW_Fares.aspx/ByProduct/CRWSTAR2 the starting price exCPH is $7352 and exIST is $10,312.

Czech Republic (PRG) is $7383, which is direct alternative to CPH. Thoughts?
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This is how it looks with the last leg changed to 773.

BUT when I change the outbound to US to LH....



How can I squeeze out those 77 miles... it's not possible without changing either the first or last leg
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Old Feb 13, 12, 8:14 am   #7
 
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There are three distance brackets for these tickets: 29000, 34000 and 39000 miles. You could either save some money bringing the itinary below 29000 or max it out a bit more and still staying below 34000.
The best tool to get the approximate mileage (and actually see where you are wasting miles is this:
http://www.gcmap.com/

You could also route the RTW thru your home airport at the end and then not take the last flight.
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Old Feb 14, 12, 9:29 am   #8
 
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This is how it looks with the last leg changed to 773.

BUT when I change the outbound to US to LH....

How can I squeeze out those 77 miles... it's not possible without changing either the first or last leg
Have you try LH on FRA-DEN-LAS, that should easily get you down below the requirement.
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How about this? Under 34K miles, and stops in Sofia on the way back saving you a positioning flight.



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You've got a number of flights on NZ and I can appreciate that you would want to experience some of the other companies too. However, NZ long-haul business class is arguably the best in Star Alliance. If you start with CPH-lhr-lax-LAS you can save over 200 miles.

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You've got a number of flights on NZ and I can appreciate that you would want to experience some of the other companies too. However, NZ long-haul business class is arguably the best in Star Alliance. If you start with CPH-lhr-lax-LAS you can save over 200 miles.

cheers,

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or just rent a car in LAX and drive to LAS instead.
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Old Feb 17, 12, 11:45 am   #12
 
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There's it is! Booked it today

Quote:
SERVICE FROM TO DEPART ARRIVE
-------------- ------------------- --------------------- -------- -------
LUFTHANSA - LH 1403
SAT 25AUG PRAGUE CZ FRANKFURT DE 0600 0720
NON STOP RUZYNE FRANKFURT INTL
EQUIPMENT:AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - D BUSINESS


LUFTHANSA - LH 454
SAT 25AUG FRANKFURT DE SAN FRANCISCO CA 0950 1220
NON STOP FRANKFURT INTL SAN FRANCISCO INTL
EQUIPMENT:AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A380-800
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - D BUSINESS


UNITED AIRLINES - UA 609
SAT 25AUG SAN FRANCISCO CA LAS VEGAS NV 1555 1721
NON STOP SAN FRANCISCO INTL MCCARRAN INTL
EQUIPMENT:AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-100/200
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - A FIRST


UNITED AIRLINES - UA 796
FRI 31AUG LAS VEGAS NV LOS ANGELES CA 1400 1512
NON STOP MCCARRAN INTL LOS ANGELES INTL
EQUIPMENT:AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-100/200
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - A FIRST


AIR NEW ZEALAND - NZ 5
WED 05SEP LOS ANGELES CA AUCKLAND NZ 2230 0630
NON STOP LOS ANGELES INTL AUCKLAND 07SEP
EQUIPMENT:BOEING 777-300
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - D BUSINESS


AIR NEW ZEALAND - NZ 40
FRI 07SEP AUCKLAND NZ PAPEETE PF 1705 0005
NON STOP AUCKLAND FAAA
EQUIPMENT:BOEING 767-300/300ER
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - D BUSINESS

AIR TAHITI - VT 420
FRI 07SEP PAPEETE PF BORA BORA PF 0730 0820
NON STOP FAAA MOTU-MUTE
EQUIPMENT:AEROSPATIALE/ALENIA ATR 72
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - Y ECONOMY


AIR TAHITI - VT 412
SUN 23SEP BORA BORA PF PAPEETE PF 1120 1210
NON STOP MOTU-MUTE FAAA
EQUIPMENT:AEROSPATIALE/ALENIA ATR 72
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - Y ECONOMY



AIR NEW ZEALAND - NZ 41
SUN 23SEP PAPEETE PF AUCKLAND NZ 1815 2220
NON STOP FAAA AUCKLAND 24SEP
EQUIPMENT:BOEING 767-300/300ER
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - D BUSINESS


AIR NEW ZEALAND - NZ 99
FRI 28SEP AUCKLAND NZ TOKYO JP 0840 1650
NON STOP AUCKLAND NARITA
EQUIPMENT:BOEING 777-200/200ER
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - D BUSINESS


ALL NIPPON AIRWAYS - NH 909
THU 04OCT TOKYO JP HONG KONG HK 1010 1340
NON STOP NARITA HONG KONG INTL
EQUIPMENT:BOEING 767-300/300ER
FLIGHT OPERATED BY AIR JAPAN
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - D BUSINESS


SINGAPORE AIRLINES - SQ 861
FRI 12OCT HONG KONG HK SINGAPORE SG 1520 1905
NON STOP HONG KONG INTL CHANGI
EQUIPMENT:AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A380-800
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - D BUSINESS


TURKISH AIRLINES - TK 67
THU 18OCT SINGAPORE SG ISTANBUL TR 0010 0630
NON STOP CHANGI ATATURK
EQUIPMENT:AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-300
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - D BUSINESS


TURKISH AIRLINES - TK 1027
THU 18OCT ISTANBUL TR SOFIA BG 0740 0855
NON STOP ATATURK SOFIA
EQUIPMENT:BOEING 737-800
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - D BUSINESS


AUSTRIAN AIRLINES - OS 798
FRI 19OCT SOFIA BG VIENNA AT 1840 1920
NON STOP SOFIA VIENNA INTL
EQUIPMENT:AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A319
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - D BUSINESS


AUSTRIAN AIRLINES - OS 711
FRI 19OCT VIENNA AT PRAGUE CZ 2000 2050
NON STOP VIENNA INTL RUZYNE
EQUIPMENT: DE HAVILLAND DHC-8 400 SERIES
FLIGHT OPERATED BY VO TYROLEAN AIRWAYS
RESERVATION CONFIRMED - D BUSINESS
Thoughts?

A few questions. I was able to pick the seats on the LH, UA, NH, SQ and NZ, but couldn't do it on the TK legs. When should I try again? I saw somewhere that you can select seats on TK flights 3 months before departure?

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or just rent a car in LAX and drive to LAS instead.
+1. LAX has awesome car fleets and the drive into LAS is pretty unforgettable. How often will you get to see a city rise out of a desert?!
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+1. LAX has awesome car fleets and the drive into LAS is pretty unforgettable. How often will you get to see a city rise out of a desert?!
Done that already, so I really prefer arriving in F
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Old Feb 19, 12, 7:46 pm   #15
 
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There's it is! Booked it today



Thoughts?

A few questions. I was able to pick the seats on the LH, UA, NH, SQ and NZ, but couldn't do it on the TK legs. When should I try again? I saw somewhere that you can select seats on TK flights 3 months before departure?

Thanks!
You can book Air Tahiti as part of RTW? If you can why now just book Air Tahiti direct from LAX to PPT. That will save you some miles and lower the cost.
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