Tough to book award with *A
Dec 5, 2010, 2:21 pm
#16
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St. Louis-Phoenix
14:40 (05-07)-17:05 (05-07)
US 623
First on 319
Phoenix-Los Angeles
16:05 (05-07)-18:31 (05-07)
US 1511
First on 321
Los Angeles-Bangkok(BKK)
23:20 (05-07)-06:40 (05-09)
TG 795
Business on 345
Bangkok(BKK)-Delhi
20:45 (05-09)-23:45 (05-09)
TG 315
Business on 747
14:40 (05-07)-17:05 (05-07)
US 623
First on 319
Phoenix-Los Angeles
16:05 (05-07)-18:31 (05-07)
US 1511
First on 321
Los Angeles-Bangkok(BKK)
23:20 (05-07)-06:40 (05-09)
TG 795
Business on 345
Bangkok(BKK)-Delhi
20:45 (05-09)-23:45 (05-09)
TG 315
Business on 747
Dec 5, 2010, 5:52 pm
#17
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Thanks - do you see availability on LH through awardnexus? I am a bit confused as awardnexus shows *A on CO, ANA and AC - but it shows results on LH?? and when I do a multi segment search with a stopover in BKK it misses some segments... have you experiences this before?
Dec 5, 2010, 10:36 pm
#18
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Delhi-Zurich
01:15 (05-29)-06:20 (05-29)
LX 147
Business on 333
Zurich-Geneva
09:40 (05-29)-12:15 (05-29)
LX 2804
Business on 320
Geneva-Montreal
10:25 (05-29)-14:15 (05-29)
AC 831
Business on 763
Montreal-Toronto(YYZ)
12:00 (05-30)-15:25 (05-30)
AC411
Business on 319
Toronto(YYZ)-St. Louis
13:15 (05-30)-16:26 (05-30)
AC 7987
Economy on CRJ
I believe the AC segment has the new Executive First on the 763.
01:15 (05-29)-06:20 (05-29)
LX 147
Business on 333
Zurich-Geneva
09:40 (05-29)-12:15 (05-29)
LX 2804
Business on 320
Geneva-Montreal
10:25 (05-29)-14:15 (05-29)
AC 831
Business on 763
Montreal-Toronto(YYZ)
12:00 (05-30)-15:25 (05-30)
AC411
Business on 319
Toronto(YYZ)-St. Louis
13:15 (05-30)-16:26 (05-30)
AC 7987
Economy on CRJ
I believe the AC segment has the new Executive First on the 763.
Dec 8, 2010, 8:37 pm
#19
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Delhi-Zurich
01:15 (05-29)-06:20 (05-29)
LX 147
Business on 333
Zurich-Geneva
09:40 (05-29)-12:15 (05-29)
LX 2804
Business on 320
Geneva-Montreal
10:25 (05-29)-14:15 (05-29)
AC 831
Business on 763
Montreal-Toronto(YYZ)
12:00 (05-30)-15:25 (05-30)
AC411
Business on 319
Toronto(YYZ)-St. Louis
13:15 (05-30)-16:26 (05-30)
AC 7987
Economy on CRJ
I believe the AC segment has the new Executive First on the 763.
01:15 (05-29)-06:20 (05-29)
LX 147
Business on 333
Zurich-Geneva
09:40 (05-29)-12:15 (05-29)
LX 2804
Business on 320
Geneva-Montreal
10:25 (05-29)-14:15 (05-29)
AC 831
Business on 763
Montreal-Toronto(YYZ)
12:00 (05-30)-15:25 (05-30)
AC411
Business on 319
Toronto(YYZ)-St. Louis
13:15 (05-30)-16:26 (05-30)
AC 7987
Economy on CRJ
I believe the AC segment has the new Executive First on the 763.
Dec 12, 2010, 9:48 am
#21
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UA's Starnet blocking makes is generally worse for UA customers and M&M offers by far more seats to its own customers than to the general *A public.
Dec 12, 2010, 12:06 pm
#22
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If the OP goes both TPAC and TATL on the same ITIN it will be considered an RTW ticket, and thus more miles. Plus - two tickets, two stops ex. STL, J class, LX in the mix, and the date requirements make this mission exceedingly difficult.
Using the ANA tool I was able to find J availability on the TG legs of the following:
5/07 STL-***-LAX-BKK
Layover
5/xx BKK-DEL
5/30 DEL-BKK-LAX
Overnight
6/01 LAX-***-STL
But the RJ's out of STL show redeemable in F and Y only, so J on the domestic legs does not look possible.
SunLover
Using the ANA tool I was able to find J availability on the TG legs of the following:
5/07 STL-***-LAX-BKK
Layover
5/xx BKK-DEL
5/30 DEL-BKK-LAX
Overnight
6/01 LAX-***-STL
But the RJ's out of STL show redeemable in F and Y only, so J on the domestic legs does not look possible.
SunLover
Dec 12, 2010, 12:52 pm
#23
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If the OP goes both TPAC and TATL on the same ITIN it will be considered an RTW ticket, and thus more miles. Plus - two tickets, two stops ex. STL, J class, LX in the mix, and the date requirements make this mission exceedingly difficult.
Using the ANA tool I was able to find J availability on the TG legs of the following:
5/07 STL-***-LAX-BKK
Layover
5/xx BKK-DEL
5/30 DEL-BKK-LAX
Overnight
6/01 LAX-***-STL
But the RJ's out of STL show redeemable in F and Y only, so J on the domestic legs does not look possible.
SunLover
Using the ANA tool I was able to find J availability on the TG legs of the following:
5/07 STL-***-LAX-BKK
Layover
5/xx BKK-DEL
5/30 DEL-BKK-LAX
Overnight
6/01 LAX-***-STL
But the RJ's out of STL show redeemable in F and Y only, so J on the domestic legs does not look possible.
SunLover
Dec 12, 2010, 3:16 pm
#24
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If the OP goes both TPAC and TATL on the same ITIN it will be considered an RTW ticket, and thus more miles.
Thanks - so I ask - can I book what you found on ANA using US airways Preferred Miles?
Last edited by eponymous_coward; Dec 12, 2010 at 6:32 pm Reason: edited 'cause I should LERN 2 REED
Dec 12, 2010, 3:27 pm
#25
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5/7
UA7435 STL-DEN 16:25 - 17:45
UA765 DEN-LAX 18:50 - 20:24
TG795 LAX-BKK 23:20 - 06:40 (arrive 5/9)
5/11 or 5/12 or 5/13; either
TG323 BKK-DEL 07:25 - 10:25
or
TG315 BKK-DEL 20:45 - 23:45
5/26 or 5/30
TG324 DEL-BKK 11:55 - 17:50
TG794 BKK-LAX 19:30 - 21:35
5/27 or 5/31
UA558 LAX-DEN 08:35 - 11:55
UA7351 DEN-STL 12:48 - 15:42
United should interline your checked bags STL-BKK, but you will need to change terminals at LAX. Three hours is plenty of time to accomplish this. On the return, by the time the TG flight gets into LAX. it does not allow for any kind of transfer that day. I would also surely mention when booking the ticket that you will have a lap infant.
SunLover
Dec 12, 2010, 3:42 pm
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SunLover
Dec 12, 2010, 4:20 pm
#27
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It appears you may be right, though this may be a recent change.
Dec 12, 2010, 4:39 pm
#28
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you might want to take a look at Award Nexus to see what sort of availability might be out there
http://p1.awardnexus.com/user/login?url=/
Or you can sign up for KVS and see award seat availability that way.
http://www.kvstool.com/
When you talk to the US people make sure you ask them to check partners. But since you are only 6 months out it might be hard to get 2 seats. I always start looking 330 days out since that is the earliest you can book. Conversely you sometimes get seats coming open near the end.
Having flexible dates helps sometimes. Some airlines don't have access to award seats on all of the partners.
Most regular booking sites or the site of airline you will be traveling on should show you the aircraft type for a given flight (always subject to change of course).
http://p1.awardnexus.com/user/login?url=/
Or you can sign up for KVS and see award seat availability that way.
http://www.kvstool.com/
When you talk to the US people make sure you ask them to check partners. But since you are only 6 months out it might be hard to get 2 seats. I always start looking 330 days out since that is the earliest you can book. Conversely you sometimes get seats coming open near the end.
Having flexible dates helps sometimes. Some airlines don't have access to award seats on all of the partners.
Most regular booking sites or the site of airline you will be traveling on should show you the aircraft type for a given flight (always subject to change of course).
The award nexus site is awesome! I can't believe I'm just learning about it now. THANKS!
Dec 15, 2010, 2:30 pm
#29
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Actually, not true anymore. I have redeemed awards on CO this year (to India in fact), in which I went TPAC to DEL and came back to North America TATL.
Dec 15, 2010, 4:54 pm
#30
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I think the biggest problem with OP right now is taht he wants too much with his miles. By all means it is possible, but if you aren't willing to pay for J then it's better if you have some flexibility.
With miles I find that the Singapore - Delhi route on SQ often has one seat but not always two seats likewise for Bangkok - Delhi on TG.
From St. Louis -> Delhi, the OP wants
Stopover in Bangkok or SIngapore
New Swiss Business Class
2 Stops - that is the biggest problem imo,
You may actually want to consider a STL -> LAX/SFO/SEA/ORD/.../ -> (Japan/Korea/Hong Kong) -> BKK (possible with 1 especially with TG but need to book early), BKK - DEL so that is one way, BKK - DEL is generally twice daily so keep that in mind or it has been from like August or something.
The return you are really looking if flying Swiss would be DEL -> ZRH -> XXX -> STL which is also possible on Swiss to find 2J I find that pretty easily especially on the Delhi and Trans-atlantic route.
With miles I find that the Singapore - Delhi route on SQ often has one seat but not always two seats likewise for Bangkok - Delhi on TG.
From St. Louis -> Delhi, the OP wants
Stopover in Bangkok or SIngapore
New Swiss Business Class
2 Stops - that is the biggest problem imo,
You may actually want to consider a STL -> LAX/SFO/SEA/ORD/.../ -> (Japan/Korea/Hong Kong) -> BKK (possible with 1 especially with TG but need to book early), BKK - DEL so that is one way, BKK - DEL is generally twice daily so keep that in mind or it has been from like August or something.
The return you are really looking if flying Swiss would be DEL -> ZRH -> XXX -> STL which is also possible on Swiss to find 2J I find that pretty easily especially on the Delhi and Trans-atlantic route.