I assume you didn't Tivo the segment, transfer it to your computer, pull it into Adobe Premiere Pro, do a frame-by-frame analysis and then upload it to Youtube, did you? THAT would be the act of some sexually-frustrated, infantile geek, wouldn't it? Since, presumably, you didn't do that, what I wrote wouldn't apply to you, would it?
Your statement was, "the only way this woman 'flashed' on national television was if some sexually-frustrated Youtuber did a frame-by-frame analysis." Either you were wrong, or you were insulting everyone who noticed the flashing on national television without all of the tools you describe. Take your pick.
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I just took a look at the links you provided. Those articles' (of questionable provenence) fascination with what one described as a "Sharon Stone 'Basic Instinct' situation" (which, of course, it was not) and another described as a "crotch shot," a term I haven't heard since junior high, suggests the same kind of puerile and infantilized view of sex and sexuality as the Youtube poster. I'm surprised that you'd want to include yourself in that company.
My point is stated again above. You missed it the first time, and I won't be surprised if you miss it again.
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Mr. Reed [...] said Ms. Ebbert and other passengers have been held to a dress code that, in fact, doesn't exist except in the minds of some airline employees.
"You apparently have thousands of employees who have the power to say, 'We don't think you're dressed appropriately,' " Mr. Reed said.
"I don't know if I should be held to anyone's personal standards. If you want men to fly with coats and ties, say so. If you want women to fly with long pants or long skirts, fine. Say so," he said. But don't let each employee impose his or her standards, he said.
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Your statement was, "the only way this woman 'flashed' on national television was if some sexually-frustrated Youtuber did a frame-by-frame analysis." Either you were wrong, or you were insulting everyone who noticed the flashing on national television without all of the tools you describe. Take your pick.
"Sexually-frustrated" referred to the person who did the frame-by-frame analysis (and applies with equal force to whoever did the still frame in the article that you linked). If you noticed that she "flashed" without the benefit of the aids that these sexually-frustrated geeks provided, then you have reflexes beyond normal human persistence of vision, as it appears that the flash was no more than several frames, i.e. 1/10th of a second at best.
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My point is stated again above. You missed it the first time, and I won't be surprised if you miss it again.
Your point seems to be that you are insulted because you think I suggested that someone who devotes significant energy into resolving the question of whether some young woman's panties could be seen on a television screen for 1/10th of second might have some issues of their own. Do you ever go to the beach? How about the ballet? This reminds me of the Janet Jackson incident. Why is it such a big deal? Even WN appears to acknowledge that putting off Ms. Ebbert was a mistake.
[quote=Firewind;8406663Even short of this, I've thought Southwest has come down just right. With this latter turn, they once again demonstrate their genius at the top. Bravo.[/QUOTE]
Well, in reality, WN screwed this up, realized it (after a very pointed Dallas newspaper story on Friday questioned whether WN had become "middle aged" and lost its free spirited nature), and tried to repair the damage.
If you think about this for 2 seconds, WN can't be -- and shouldn't be -- the fashion police. It doesn't work -- who judges "appropriate attire"? It's in the eye of the beholder. And what's the benefit of judging to WN? I don't see any real benefit.
The only clothing that should be excluded are completely revealing outfits -- literally, boobs popping out -- or t-shirts with statements that are patently offensive (something like "Shoot the President" -- of course, dealing with a t-shirt that says something like "The President is a ........" is a tougher call).
It's good WN leadership came to their senses on this one. That newspaper article was a real wakeup call.
For record, I saw the original interview with Matt Lauer and clearly remember thinking OMG she just flashed herself on national TV. She didn't sit down very fast so the undies were pretty noticeable with that short skirt. So when I saw this thread that's why I chimed in. And typing her name in on YouTube brought up the video, because I was sure someone had posted a copy of the interview to the site. I was a little surprised to see that some dweeb took the time to slow-mo it, but pervs are all over the net, so that shouldn't have surprised me.
Still, I think that girl needs to tone it down and wear a little more fabric. There are plenty of minis and cute tops that don't reveal the goods...I've got plenty hanging in my own closet.
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Does anyone else find it ironic that shortly after this incident hit the news wire, Southwest announced a "Mini-Skirt Sale"?? Was this great PR by Southwest or was this a very elaborate scheme to roll out a flight sale?? I don't believe in the conspiracy theory but it does kind of make you think.
Does anyone else find it ironic that shortly after this incident hit the news wire, Southwest announced a "Mini-Skirt Sale"?? Was this great PR by Southwest or was this a very elaborate scheme to roll out a flight sale?? I don't believe in the conspiracy theory but it does kind of make you think.
Does anyone else find it ironic that shortly after this incident hit the news wire, Southwest announced a "Mini-Skirt Sale"?? Was this great PR by Southwest or was this a very elaborate scheme to roll out a flight sale?? I don't believe in the conspiracy theory but it does kind of make you think.
They just took a routine run-of-the-mill fare sale and slapped the "mini-skirt" moniker on it. I'm almost 100% sure it was a seat-of-the-pants "OK, what can we do to fix this" response once they realized that had to do something about this incident and make it go away.
Southwest Airlines, after getting grief for telling a young woman her outfit was too revealing to fly, is now using the brouhaha as a marketing ploy - announcing a fare sale to honor miniskirts.
So I'm reading the daily USAToday airline blog today and I see that Kyla is still unhappy with Southwest, and says that her outfit wasn't that revealing that day because she was covering bandages from her recent breast enhancement surgery.
Could the media please make this stop? It's ridiculous -- the woman has had her 15 minutes of fame.
Well, actually, I'm sure she'll get a bit more. We've all seen this movie before. It has to end with a nude spread in Playboy, right? This girl has got it figured out!
So I'm reading the daily USAToday airline blog today and I see that Kyla is still unhappy with Southwest, and says that her outfit wasn't that revealing that day because she was covering bandages from her recent breast enhancement surgery.
Unless the surgery involved incisions south of the border, she's missing the point.
It's ridiculous -- the woman has had her 15 minutes of fame.
