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Old Jul 5, 12, 3:57 pm   #16
 
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Chandler is actually a separate airport...

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KCHD

I wonder what use AZA is getting, and by whom...
You are correct, but the Chandler Municipal Airport you mention has no IATA code. IATA did indeed assign CHD to what is now AZA, at the time creating two separate airports a few miles apart, one with FAA designator CHD and the other with IATA designator CHD. Unnecessarily confusing and likely a contributing factor to the desire for Phoenix-Gateway to seek a new IATA code.

AZA is a major base for Allegiant; they serve approximately 30 cities from there (almost all less than daily, which is typical for them). Spirit Airlines also operates flights to LAS and DFW out of AZA.
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Old Jul 5, 12, 4:28 pm   #17
 
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You are correct, but the Chandler Municipal Airport you mention has no IATA code. IATA did indeed assign CHD to what is now AZA, at the time creating two separate airports a few miles apart, one with FAA designator CHD and the other with IATA designator CHD. Unnecessarily confusing and likely a contributing factor to the desire for Phoenix-Gateway to seek a new IATA code.

AZA is a major base for Allegiant; they serve approximately 30 cities from there (almost all less than daily, which is typical for them). Spirit Airlines also operates flights to LAS and DFW out of AZA.
Confusing? You betcha--sounds like it came straight from the U.S. Department of Redundacy Department...

My question was improperly posed, as I'm familar with both the airlines that serve Phoenix-Gateway (I can't bring myself to use an indentifier). What I really meant to ask was what practical use the identifier AZA was getting, and by whom? Ticketing and baggage? DOT/BTS reports? Sales and marketing? It would appear that operationally-speaking that IWA/KIWA is used for ATC flight plan filings and instrument approach procedures.

http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1207/00074IL30C.PDF
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Old Jul 5, 12, 4:52 pm   #18
 
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Confusing? You betcha--sounds like it came straight from the U.S. Department of Redundacy Department...

My question was improperly posed, as I'm familar with both the airlines that serve Phoenix-Gateway (I can't bring myself to use an indentifier). What I really meant to ask was what practical use the identifier AZA was getting, and by whom? Ticketing and baggage? DOT/BTS reports? Sales and marketing? It would appear that operationally-speaking that IWA/KIWA is used for ATC flight plan filings and instrument approach procedures.

http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1207/00074IL30C.PDF
Ah, I misunderstood. I should've known better!

I know the AZA code is used for everything submitted to the OAG, DOT/BTS reports as you mention, and in theory, should be used for ticketing/baggage.

However, I do note on Allegiant's website that they refer to the airport as IWA (Spirit does use AZA), so I'm not sure what would actually show up on tickets/bags for G4. Considering they don't provide connections or interlining, I suppose they could theoretically use whatever they like.
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Old Jul 5, 12, 5:07 pm   #19
 
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No problem.. I'll leave the powers-that-be to their own devices...
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You are correct, but the Chandler Municipal Airport you mention has no IATA code. IATA did indeed assign CHD to what is now AZA, at the time creating two separate airports a few miles apart, one with FAA designator CHD and the other with IATA designator CHD. Unnecessarily confusing and likely a contributing factor to the desire for Phoenix-Gateway to seek a new IATA code.
Just to add a little more confusion - When the Phoenix/Mesa Gateway Airport was known as Williams Air Force Base its ICAO/FAA identifier was indeed CHD, while Chandler Municipal Airport was known as P10. Fast forward to the 90s, the base was bracked by the Pentagon and became IWA named after tower chief Ivory White (Airport). Chandler Muni got its own control tower and inherited the unused CHD.

Oh and btw, Scottsdale is KSDL and SCF while Palomar is KCRQ and CLD.
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Old Aug 21, 12, 8:29 am   #21
 
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Pep rally at Branson airport on Monday I see, I wonder if they can fly direct from DAL to Branson

info on peprally at http://flybranson.com
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Old Aug 21, 12, 10:20 am   #22
 
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Yes, they can fly to DAL from Branson as Missouri is allowed.
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Old Aug 21, 12, 12:13 pm   #23
 
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Branson's airport is great! We recently flew my wife's folks from Spokane to BKG (via Denver) on Frontier Air. It was actually significantly less expensive than flying into the larger Springfield, MO airport an hour a way. It is in a somewhat remote location, but is a great facility.
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Also, Killeen, TX. The old commercial airport is KILE, and the current joint-use military airport is KGRK, but for ticketing, uses ILE.

Then there's the issue of new/relocated airports...

Last year, Saint George, UT opened a new airport, as the old airport (KSGU) was unable to handle any commercial jets, and needed to be decommissioned to accomodate growth. Thus, to avoid confusion while the code transition hit the books, the old airport held KSGU, and the new one had KDXZ, while the city itself had the IATA code of SGU.

The same thing happened for DEN and AUS. (Although, I don't know what those interim codes were.)
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Old Aug 30, 12, 10:50 pm   #25
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Here the official schedule release from WN:

Southwest's Branson Service:
•One daily nonstop flight between Branson and Dallas Love Field
•One daily nonstop flight between Branson and Houston Hobby
•One daily nonstop flight between Branson and Chicago Midway
•One Saturday-only nonstop flight between Branson and Orlando

WN will have 1 daily flight each from BKG-DAL/MDW/HOU and 1 flight is on Sat. only service to MCO.
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