Official schedule extension prediction thread
#691
Join Date: Apr 2006
Programs: UA, AA, WN, JB, Hilton Honors, Starwood
Posts: 426
Hi,
I typically fly this week due to my work schedule and can not change my vacation schedule. I am always on the computer first thing in the AM when the schedule comes out, and have never seen such high prices as I have this year. Maybe JetBlue has lower prices out of PVD as WN seems to have cornered the market there, and it is just a matter of time before Jet Blue increases their prices. Competition is good for the consumer.
ML
I typically fly this week due to my work schedule and can not change my vacation schedule. I am always on the computer first thing in the AM when the schedule comes out, and have never seen such high prices as I have this year. Maybe JetBlue has lower prices out of PVD as WN seems to have cornered the market there, and it is just a matter of time before Jet Blue increases their prices. Competition is good for the consumer.
ML
#692
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: HOU
Programs: WN CP, A+, UA Sil, MR Amb LTP, Hyatt Plat, HH Dia, National EE
Posts: 466
For as long as I can recall, Southwest has held its prices high for peak travel times until the last few weeks before travel. Then and only then will they relent and lower prices if needed to sell all their seats.
Maybe other airlines are dumb, or maybe they have more accurate projections far in advance of how many seats they will sell.
Maybe other airlines are dumb, or maybe they have more accurate projections far in advance of how many seats they will sell.
For whatever that's worth.
#694
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Rochester, NY
Programs: AirTran A+ Elite, Marriott Rewards Plat, Rapid Rewards A List, National Exec, USAir Div Mil
Posts: 323
Anyone know where the "Travel Tools" section went? It's the page that listed the date of the next schedule extension.
Thanks!
Thanks!
#695
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,832
http://www.southwest.com/html/travel...OOLS-CAR-TOOLS
But from the main page, no, I can't figure out how to get to it. There don't seem to be any links nor is there a site map I can find.
#696
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Rochester, NY
Programs: AirTran A+ Elite, Marriott Rewards Plat, Rapid Rewards A List, National Exec, USAir Div Mil
Posts: 323
Google is your friend, here:
http://www.southwest.com/html/travel...OOLS-CAR-TOOLS
But from the main page, no, I can't figure out how to get to it. There don't seem to be any links nor is there a site map I can find.
http://www.southwest.com/html/travel...OOLS-CAR-TOOLS
But from the main page, no, I can't figure out how to get to it. There don't seem to be any links nor is there a site map I can find.
#697
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Programs: AA Gold AAdvantage Elite, Rapids Reward
Posts: 38,294
Google is your friend, here:
http://www.southwest.com/html/travel...OOLS-CAR-TOOLS
But from the main page, no, I can't figure out how to get to it. There don't seem to be any links nor is there a site map I can find.
http://www.southwest.com/html/travel...OOLS-CAR-TOOLS
But from the main page, no, I can't figure out how to get to it. There don't seem to be any links nor is there a site map I can find.
#698
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: New England
Programs: WN A&cp, SPGplat
Posts: 89
#699
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: PHL
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, Hilton HHonors Diamond
Posts: 1,192
There are going to be some empty planes flying to Florida from the BWI/PHL/EWR area. WN is hundreds of dollars more than AA, B9 or even UA.
#700
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,120
Out of PHL, it's competitive against US Air.
It usually adjusts pricing about a month or six weeks closer to the flight date.
I think a cold winter can push sales up on all nonstop and reasonable one-stop connection tickets (like NE-BWI-Florida) from all carriers to Florida. With a mild winter (more prevalent three years ago or so), pax easily change their ticket to another date, and Southwest can get screwed. I've flown on a PHL-FLL flight that was 25% full and wondered if it was because of the mild weekend when I flew out of PHL. Southwest didn't lower the ticket pricing the week around the trip either to help fill the plane as existing customers would just
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#701
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,968
Google is your friend, here:
http://www.southwest.com/html/travel...OOLS-CAR-TOOLS
But from the main page, no, I can't figure out how to get to it. There don't seem to be any links nor is there a site map I can find.
http://www.southwest.com/html/travel...OOLS-CAR-TOOLS
But from the main page, no, I can't figure out how to get to it. There don't seem to be any links nor is there a site map I can find.
#702
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: PHL
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, Hilton HHonors Diamond
Posts: 1,192
WN doesn't directly competes on EWR-Florida except connections via BNA which is a little out of the way, especially to S. Florida. Out of PHL and BWI, B6 and UA do not directly compete
Out of PHL, it's competitive against US Air.
It usually adjusts pricing about a month or six weeks closer to the flight date.
I think a cold winter can push sales up on all nonstop and reasonable one-stop connection tickets (like NE-BWI-Florida) from all carriers to Florida. With a mild winter (more prevalent three years ago or so), pax easily change their ticket to another date, and Southwest can get screwed. I've flown on a PHL-FLL flight that was 25% full and wondered if it was because of the mild weekend when I flew out of PHL. Southwest didn't lower the ticket pricing the week around the trip either to help fill the plane as existing customers would just
Out of PHL, it's competitive against US Air.
It usually adjusts pricing about a month or six weeks closer to the flight date.
I think a cold winter can push sales up on all nonstop and reasonable one-stop connection tickets (like NE-BWI-Florida) from all carriers to Florida. With a mild winter (more prevalent three years ago or so), pax easily change their ticket to another date, and Southwest can get screwed. I've flown on a PHL-FLL flight that was 25% full and wondered if it was because of the mild weekend when I flew out of PHL. Southwest didn't lower the ticket pricing the week around the trip either to help fill the plane as existing customers would just
I can also travel to NYC area and find nonstops for $275 on B9, or $400 on UA. I was stating in this general area (mid-atlantic) WN is outrageous. Yes, you are correct in the fact they do not directly compete as you stated I was just mentioning in this area people have multiple options of airports within a 90 minute drive. It used to be that WN would be the cheapest option, somewhere, whether PHL or BWI, but now that is extremely rare.
While I wish this was an isolated incident due to Spring Break, it seems anytime I need to travel to Florida, WN is significantly more than anyone else. I fear they are just going to pull out of PHL completely, they've shrank a lot as it is. They'll just have their fortress at BWI and continue to raise fares. I'm glad WN adjusts the rates 4-6 weeks out, but that's late for leisure travel. But hey if WN is filling planes at BWI and PHL with those rates, good for them. Let's hope for a mild winter for our own sakes and for cheaper airfare
#703
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 120
They have pushed the date up:
We are currently accepting air reservations through April 6, 2015. On November 10, 2014, we will open our schedule for sale through June 5, 2015. This date is subject to change! Please check back frequently.
We are currently accepting air reservations through April 6, 2015. On November 10, 2014, we will open our schedule for sale through June 5, 2015. This date is subject to change! Please check back frequently.
#704
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,575
The new schedule was supposed to open Monday
#705
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: MCI
Programs: CBP Global Entry, WN A-List Preferred, WN Companion Pass
Posts: 2,006
IIRC, no, not generally. It slips and slides a bit on occasion, but nothing too dramatic.
Remember that we are now in the throes of bye-bye Wright, still in ongoing contract negotiations with most/all unions, ingesting the final scraps of that which was AirTran, starting/expanding/stabilizing International service, cleaning up the mess from This, and presumably still attempting to address This.
All of this with Southwest's renowned IT "system", and all overseen by a Bean Counter.
I had an MCI-LAS this past Saturday arrive 20 minutes early and an LAS-MCI return arrive 10 minutes early. Both on stuffed-full -800s & both with Outstanding Southwest Employees aboard. While two flights are statistically meaningless, perhaps there is hope.
I'm frankly amazed that it works as well as it does
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