Sitting my family together
#46
Join Date: Feb 2009
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1. We don't save seats
2. Doubtful that you would say a word to me, I am a COS with about 10% body fat off season. But if you did say something I would probably move to the middle and use COS seat for the Aisle or window and let you sit right next to me, lol
3. If Sw is so bad why are you on this forum ?
#47
Join Date: May 2005
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She didn't have an 'high A'. She would have something near the End of A or worse. First time we didn't check her in until the airport thinking it didn't matter and she would just board with me(like practically every airline on the planet), we were wrong. There are a lot of WN travelers and they all know to login and check-in ASAP.
And your recommendation works, sometimes, but it is not a guarantee.
And your recommendation works, sometimes, but it is not a guarantee.
I don't remember the exact number but there's close to 50 window and 50 aisle seats at minimum on WN planes. Boarding at A60 means that there are at most 59 people, plus preboards, plus throughs, that would board before the highest of A's. And one of those would be you. So the odds of you not finding a window or aisle with an empty middle if you board at your position are pretty slim at best. Certainly not a guarantee but it would work far more often than "sometimes".
#48
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High number... sorry. IE A60.
And that's the rub. Being told boarding in wrong zone yet she won't be taking anyone's seat of consequence. My wife is in my party. So is my 3yr old and 4 month old. If I earned status I want to board when it is my turn and take my family with me. I am not sure why this is such an odd/weird/not a thing on WN.
And that's the rub. Being told boarding in wrong zone yet she won't be taking anyone's seat of consequence. My wife is in my party. So is my 3yr old and 4 month old. If I earned status I want to board when it is my turn and take my family with me. I am not sure why this is such an odd/weird/not a thing on WN.
#49
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High number... sorry. IE A60.
And that's the rub. Being told boarding in wrong zone yet she won't be taking anyone's seat of consequence. My wife is in my party. So is my 3yr old and 4 month old. If I earned status I want to board when it is my turn and take my family with me. I am not sure why this is such an odd/weird/not a thing on WN.
And that's the rub. Being told boarding in wrong zone yet she won't be taking anyone's seat of consequence. My wife is in my party. So is my 3yr old and 4 month old. If I earned status I want to board when it is my turn and take my family with me. I am not sure why this is such an odd/weird/not a thing on WN.
#50
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High number... sorry. IE A60.
And that's the rub. Being told boarding in wrong zone yet she won't be taking anyone's seat of consequence. My wife is in my party. So is my 3yr old and 4 month old. If I earned status I want to board when it is my turn and take my family with me. I am not sure why this is such an odd/weird/not a thing on WN.
And that's the rub. Being told boarding in wrong zone yet she won't be taking anyone's seat of consequence. My wife is in my party. So is my 3yr old and 4 month old. If I earned status I want to board when it is my turn and take my family with me. I am not sure why this is such an odd/weird/not a thing on WN.
You can't really have open seating and allow people to board out of order.
#51
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Boarding early because you have status and bringing your entire non-status family with you is no big deal on the other airlines because they all have assigned seats. The only thing the rest of the passengers could possibly lose is a bit of overhead bin space.
On Southwest, you must have status yourself in order to get a low A position for free. Whether you bring one, two, or five other people on the plane with you is irrelevant. Non-status passengers don't get to jump the line, and the reason is because of open seating.
20 years ago, you could buy a discount fare and be one of the first people to board the plane if you got to the gate really early and stood in line waiting for the gate agent to show up. Now, you have to buy a Business $elect ticket, pay for an A position at the gate, or buy EBCI. Buying a discount fare and checking in for free puts you at least 60 people further back. Letting friends and family members of one A-lister to board early just makes this worse.
On Southwest, you must have status yourself in order to get a low A position for free. Whether you bring one, two, or five other people on the plane with you is irrelevant. Non-status passengers don't get to jump the line, and the reason is because of open seating.
20 years ago, you could buy a discount fare and be one of the first people to board the plane if you got to the gate really early and stood in line waiting for the gate agent to show up. Now, you have to buy a Business $elect ticket, pay for an A position at the gate, or buy EBCI. Buying a discount fare and checking in for free puts you at least 60 people further back. Letting friends and family members of one A-lister to board early just makes this worse.
#52
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There have been reports of some OAs allowing only kids under 6 to board during family boarding with one parent. Most allow the entire family to board togeather.
Checking in at exactly T-24 should allow you to all sit together, if you are nervous purchase EBCI for all passengers.
Another question. Are you all on the same ticket? If so you will all get checked in together. If you are on more than one ticket when you check in at T-24 there may be a gaps in your boarding numbers. IF you are on more than one ticket you should prepare to use multiple browsers and/or multiple devices to ensure you are all checked in as soon as possible.
It is also remarkable how many people delay checking in. Monday afternoon my wife changed her flight from the evening to the morning for a flight she scheduled on Tuesday evening. Well under 24 hours to take off. Her new boarding number was B-30, on an almost completely sold out flight.
Checking in at exactly T-24 should allow you to all sit together, if you are nervous purchase EBCI for all passengers.
Another question. Are you all on the same ticket? If so you will all get checked in together. If you are on more than one ticket when you check in at T-24 there may be a gaps in your boarding numbers. IF you are on more than one ticket you should prepare to use multiple browsers and/or multiple devices to ensure you are all checked in as soon as possible.
It is also remarkable how many people delay checking in. Monday afternoon my wife changed her flight from the evening to the morning for a flight she scheduled on Tuesday evening. Well under 24 hours to take off. Her new boarding number was B-30, on an almost completely sold out flight.
#53
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On other airlines you often can only pre-select middle seats without paying extra. At the airport they will assign you seats together if they have them. That's not materially different from Southwest and in fact it probably produces lower probability of success.
#54
Join Date: Apr 2017
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1. We don't save seats
2. Doubtful that you would say a word to me, I am a COS with about 10% body fat off season. But if you did say something I would probably move to the middle and use COS seat for the Aisle or window and let you sit right next to me, lol
3. If Sw is so bad why are you on this forum ?
2. Doubtful that you would say a word to me, I am a COS with about 10% body fat off season. But if you did say something I would probably move to the middle and use COS seat for the Aisle or window and let you sit right next to me, lol
3. If Sw is so bad why are you on this forum ?
2. Am I supposed to be threatened by someone's appearance? I have no problem saying something to anyone.
3. It was in the trending topics.
#55
Join Date: Jul 2013
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When I was flying Airtran I could actually watch the plane fill up as seats were assigned at check-in. Very many people waited until right before the flight to check in. You could literally watch the seat map web page fill up sometimes between the time I got to the airport when I got to the gate. You could even mostly tell who had bought the ticket on Southwest. I have done similar but more limited tests with Frontier. There is no way to test on Southwest except voiding an existing boarding pass and printing a new one. I may try that someday on a flight I'm going to cancel if I'm bored enough to repeatedly cancel the BP and get another one issued, but I doubt the behavior of passengers varies much, especially those inexperienced passengers who don't obsess on FT?
In another incident I had A-17 on a light load. The guy who had A-16 had never flown Southwest before and checked in a couple of hours before the flight. He was completely clueless. Other than that he seemed to be a young man of reasonable intelligence and we had a nice conversation while waiting for boarding to start.
#56
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Failing that, you might just take some $10 bills with you on the flight. When you get to an open seat, offer the person in the seat next to it $10 to change to another seat in a different row. If that person declines, go to the next open seat, and make the same offer to the person sitting next to it. If you don't get any takers at $10, go back to the last person and offer them $15. Using this approach, you can probably get 5 seats together.
#57
Join Date: Sep 2002
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When you get to an open seat, offer the person in the seat next to it $10 to change to another seat in a different row. If that person declines, go to the next open seat, and make the same offer to the person sitting next to it. If you don't get any takers at $10, go back to the last person and offer them $15. Using this approach, you can probably get 5 seats together.
#58
Join Date: Jan 2003
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I thought it was a fairly obvious solution, but I have never observed it. Are you aware of any WN prohibition of the practice? I can't really see that it would cause a noticeable delay in departing. I mean all the pax have to sit somewhere.
#59
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You can't see how systematically going down the cabin and attempting to bribe people, then swimming upstream and starting all over again when nobody accepts versus just sitting down in an open seat might cause a delay in boarding? Really?
#60
Join Date: Jan 2003
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I would not think the word "bribe" would apply to a voluntary transaction between two passengers. And to be fair, I did not suggest going from the rear of the plane back to the front of the plane to begin the process over, just increasing the amount offered from where ever you got your last "no thanks." If the FAs "call time", of course you just take the nearest seat. But I think I've recalled later boarding passengers and FAs asking for people to move seats to accommodate a family. I was just suggesting that offering some $ might get more volunteers. The pax are flying WN, after all, not Emirates Air.
Last edited by COS_Flyer; Jul 28, 2017 at 7:13 pm