Scheme to get All SW flights for 25% off
#1
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 166
Scheme to get All SW flights for 25% off
I am very new to SW and wanted to pick your collective brains. Please tell me if this will work. Let's say I had tons of 3rd party currency like thank you points or other traver currency. This currency allows me to purchase SW flights at 25% off (I am 99% sure that SW gets paid the full fare) Can I do the following:
1. Book 20+ SW flights.
2. Wait a few days
3. Go to SW and cancel all the flights
4. Get 100% of the flight value as credits?
5. Take my time over the next year to book the actual flights I want.
6. Does it get complicated if you have lots of credits of different amounts?
The reason I want to do this is that the discount is for a limited time and I would love to stash all the value with sw.
1. Book 20+ SW flights.
2. Wait a few days
3. Go to SW and cancel all the flights
4. Get 100% of the flight value as credits?
5. Take my time over the next year to book the actual flights I want.
6. Does it get complicated if you have lots of credits of different amounts?
The reason I want to do this is that the discount is for a limited time and I would love to stash all the value with sw.
#2
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Traveling the World
Posts: 6,072
I am very new to SW and wanted to pick your collective brains. Please tell me if this will work. Let's say I had tons of 3rd party currency like thank you points or other traver currency. This currency allows me to purchase SW flights at 25% off (I am 99% sure that SW gets paid the full fare) Can I do the following:
1. Book 20+ SW flights.
2. Wait a few days
3. Go to SW and cancel all the flights
4. Get 100% of the flight value as credits?
5. Take my time over the next year to book the actual flights I want.
6. Does it get complicated if you have lots of credits of different amounts?
The reason I want to do this is that the discount is for a limited time and I would love to stash all the value with sw.
1. Book 20+ SW flights.
2. Wait a few days
3. Go to SW and cancel all the flights
4. Get 100% of the flight value as credits?
5. Take my time over the next year to book the actual flights I want.
6. Does it get complicated if you have lots of credits of different amounts?
The reason I want to do this is that the discount is for a limited time and I would love to stash all the value with sw.
Perhaps others can "chime in" but me thinks not.
#3
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ORD, MDW or MKE
Programs: American and Southwest. Hilton and Marriott hotels primarily.
Posts: 6,459
You won't get 100% of the flight value as credit; you will get 75% of the flight value as credit.
You will only get a credit for the amount you paid.
You will only get a credit for the amount you paid.
#4
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 166
So I went ahead and tried this out. I was able to make a booking at 25% off. Then I went to SW and tried to modify/change the reservation, but it would not let me. It said it cant be done online since it was bought through a 3rd party. I waited a bit and tried again after the final confirmation came though. I was able to cancel it! And I did get the FULL fare value credit. Next I tried and was able to book a different flight using the credit. So on a small scale this does work. Also, I was able to see who exactly purchased the ticket and it was "montrose travel". I did some research and this company represents 100s of credit card and reward programs.
So my outstanding questions are:
1. Will Montrose Travel be notified that I canceled the reservation?
2. If so, I wonder if they would care?
3. Will SouthWest care if I did this 20 more times?
Once thing that I found interesting, is that Montrose Travel does not seem to have access to some of the cheapest fare on sw.com. But it does not seem to matter since I can just buy a mugh higher fare, cancel it and reapply the funds to a cheaper fare.
So my outstanding questions are:
1. Will Montrose Travel be notified that I canceled the reservation?
2. If so, I wonder if they would care?
3. Will SouthWest care if I did this 20 more times?
Once thing that I found interesting, is that Montrose Travel does not seem to have access to some of the cheapest fare on sw.com. But it does not seem to matter since I can just buy a mugh higher fare, cancel it and reapply the funds to a cheaper fare.
#6
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#7
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Falls Church, VA
Posts: 82
The biggest issue I can see is that when you book a Southwest WGA fare, the ticket itself is only good for 1 year. You can cancel it and reuse the funds, but the new ticket still retains the original expiration date. Meaning, the "new" flight has to occur within 1 year of the old flight. You can't just keep rebooking into the future. So, even if this worked they way you wanted, you would not want to "stash" more money than you intend to spend at Southwest in the next 1 year.
(This wouldn't apply if you paid for fully refundable tickets, but TYP can't do that.)
(This wouldn't apply if you paid for fully refundable tickets, but TYP can't do that.)
#8
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Well for one thing, when you try to cheat by abusing the free cancellation aspect of WN, you bring closer the day when they take it away, thus hosing every honest WN customer.
Please don't do this.
#10
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 166
Rest assured I will not be doing this on mass scale. Simply because I don't fly enough. But if there was a business person that paid their own way and flew on SouthWest regularly, this would be a great opportunity to save 25% of all their flights.
#11
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 921
Looking up this website you're referring to, I don't see anything regarding Southwest, or 25% off. But then again, I'm not going to spend all day figuring it out.
#12
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Southwest is unlikely to care. The travel agent is the wild card.
I wouldn't try it 20 times. Maybe 2 times with 10x the dollar amount. My guess is that it will work several times and then the travel company will ban you.
I wouldn't try it 20 times. Maybe 2 times with 10x the dollar amount. My guess is that it will work several times and then the travel company will ban you.
#13
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Posts: 8,698
Are these fares 25%+ higher the WN's costing you more "currency"? Then who would care?
#14
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong....But, I don't see this a 25% off WN flights opportunity. The points currency used simply applies a ratio to book paid flights. So, the "25% off all WN flights" mentioned is the exact same as using it toward flights on UA, DL, or AA (or worse if we're talking about TY points on AA). If something is applied uniformly to other airlines, then, it is not unique to WN and not really a discount.
IMHO, this thread is really about a nice liquidation strategy for those points if one is closing-out a card.
IMHO, this thread is really about a nice liquidation strategy for those points if one is closing-out a card.
#15
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 166
Exactly. I have a bunch of CC reward points and I want to see the best way to use them. I can't transfer them to RR points, but with this technique I can at least stash the cash for next year.