Can anyone give me a single benefit to being a "preferred" frequent traveler on SW?
#46
Join Date: Oct 2001
Programs: LTP, PP
Posts: 8,698
They all suck, Southwest had a great competitive & operational edge but choose to join everyone else...
I'm writing this severely delayed, as usual, in BWI, cause they took our sold out connection to ISP (only 5 per day now but this is were ALL traffic has to connect) and gave it to MDW instead. So inconveniencing the least amount of passengers is utter BS....
I'm writing this severely delayed, as usual, in BWI, cause they took our sold out connection to ISP (only 5 per day now but this is were ALL traffic has to connect) and gave it to MDW instead. So inconveniencing the least amount of passengers is utter BS....
#48
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: OH & NV
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat, WN CP, Latin Pass Bonus
Posts: 3,707
Obviously, everyone has different priorities and resources. If my clients paid for my flights, I would fly First Class and accrue big miles on American.
But really, my biggest pro for WN are the CP, ability to change or cancel, and free bags. I will not pay for BS as often there are no "preferred" seats anyway. And the rest are all the same. Of course, if clients paid, ......
I agree WN needs to get scheduling better. Add 5 min to turnaround. Get people on board (and off) faster. Start boarding earlier. And for some reason, plane sits 10 min after boarding complete? Used to be a rush, not now. With short turnarounds, they just keep falling further behind all day.
But really, my biggest pro for WN are the CP, ability to change or cancel, and free bags. I will not pay for BS as often there are no "preferred" seats anyway. And the rest are all the same. Of course, if clients paid, ......
I agree WN needs to get scheduling better. Add 5 min to turnaround. Get people on board (and off) faster. Start boarding earlier. And for some reason, plane sits 10 min after boarding complete? Used to be a rush, not now. With short turnarounds, they just keep falling further behind all day.
#49
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SNA
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WN could fix turnaround issues completely, but it would never work: just board the plane in reverse order with C-17 first, and force compliance to board rear-first. Most of the time I see spent boarding (I usually get < A30 but go to the rear anyway and get to watch this first-hand) is folks waiting for the people in front of them to get out of their way (which is why the legacies board non-status rear-first, IIRC).
#50
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 5,813
WN could fix turnaround issues completely, but it would never work: just board the plane in reverse order with C-17 first, and force compliance to board rear-first. Most of the time I see spent boarding (I usually get < A30 but go to the rear anyway and get to watch this first-hand) is folks waiting for the people in front of them to get out of their way (which is why the legacies board non-status rear-first, IIRC).
With assigned seating Airtran boards Elite and Business class first then from back to front by seat number.
#51
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 210
I avoid ORD like the plague. I can get in and out of MDW in literally half the time (lot to gate, and back). Flying just about weekly, that quickly amounts to a whole time of time saved navigating an airport.
With the exception of international travel, Southwest takes me just about anywhere I need to go... direct.
#52
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Minneapolis, originally from Cincinnati
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I rarely check a bag, but for people that do check a bag regularly, another benefit the legacies provide Southwest doesn't is priority baggage handling. It's a great benefit if the baggage handlers do their job correctly when you have to check a bag and are on a long flight. And for the people that travel heavy, the legacies give their frequent flyers three 70-lb checked bags for free as opposed to two 50-lb on Southwest. This is another nice benefit if I have to travel heavy, I would rather pack one 70-lb bag than 2 smaller bags
#53
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 542
Might be the best point of the thread. The majors all rely on RJs.
Southwest only flies full sized jets AND has a much better safety record (you don't have to be elite to get it.)
The best elite benefit is the companion pass.
Southwest only flies full sized jets AND has a much better safety record (you don't have to be elite to get it.)
The best elite benefit is the companion pass.
#54
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#55
Join Date: May 2011
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Companion pass you can get without flying much anyway and it wasn't a useful benefit for me when I had it, but I know for some it is. It was very easy to get a companion pass in the past by just using a southwest credit card and staying at Hilton's in the days of RR1
#56
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I'll take an A seat on an ERJ-145 (coach only) any day over the devolve seat that I sat in last week. I flew DEN--PIT (3+ hours) in such a seat and had no issues. Just because it's a "large" plane clearly does not guarantee comfort, as WN (and others) are demonstrating by installing the awful slimline seats.
#58
Join Date: May 2011
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#59
Join Date: May 2011
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I'll take an A seat on an ERJ-145 (coach only) any day over the devolve seat that I sat in last week. I flew DEN--PIT (3+ hours) in such a seat and had no issues. Just because it's a "large" plane clearly does not guarantee comfort, as WN (and others) are demonstrating by installing the awful slimline seats.
#60
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Care to share data to support the safety claim? Be sure to include the increasing level of FAA fines for improper maintenance, pilot landing at the wrong airport.