FA alleges that exit row reserved for BS
#46
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I'd like to post an apology to those that have encountered an FA making up their own rules. Recently I flew with an FA who would not allow anyone to change seats into the exit row until all BS had boarded. While I agree this is probably a good idea, there is no verbiage from HQ asking us to do that.
My experience is that most BS choose aisle seats in the front and very few come back to the exit row - but that doesn't matter. I would agree to any rule provided us by HQ that asks us to save the exit row until all BS have boarded.
My experience is that most BS choose aisle seats in the front and very few come back to the exit row - but that doesn't matter. I would agree to any rule provided us by HQ that asks us to save the exit row until all BS have boarded.
2) Did you correct the other FA on the policy?
#47
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This is just another example of not knowing what to expect from Southwest FA. They are either an extremely good or bad group of service employees. One flight I might get professional employees who remind me of PMUA or American Airlines, the next time I might get comedians which I personally do not enjoy, or I might get someone on a power trip reminiscent of Continental FAs. Southwest is inconsistent and when I fly an airline I prefer consistency.
It is too bad you faced such a rude FA. Southwest needs to spend more money on training to make sure their FAs are professional and customer oriented. Yes, they are there for safety, but they need to act professional which this FA did not.
It is too bad you faced such a rude FA. Southwest needs to spend more money on training to make sure their FAs are professional and customer oriented. Yes, they are there for safety, but they need to act professional which this FA did not.
#48
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#49
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So just now I have received a call from WN about this. Not sure the exact date I wrote them a snail letter, but it must have been early/mid-June, so about 6 weeks to respond.
Rep acknowledged that I was 100% right, that there is no prohibition on thru pax moving to exit row seats before the new folks come on (regardless if they are BS), etc. Said they'd pass along my info to whoever is responsible for training FAs. Offered me a $50 voucher for my trouble, which is fine with me. Supposed to come by email in a few days.
I'd be happy with no compensation if they'd just instruct their front-line, customer-facing people to follow the correct procedures, every time, every day, forever.
Rep acknowledged that I was 100% right, that there is no prohibition on thru pax moving to exit row seats before the new folks come on (regardless if they are BS), etc. Said they'd pass along my info to whoever is responsible for training FAs. Offered me a $50 voucher for my trouble, which is fine with me. Supposed to come by email in a few days.
I'd be happy with no compensation if they'd just instruct their front-line, customer-facing people to follow the correct procedures, every time, every day, forever.
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#52
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ask them to please include in their letter what they told you via phone--there is no policy against moving seats. you could also white-out your personal info and post a link to it on a southwest flyertalk wiki. I recently requested a similar letter to re-explain the policy that bags that don't fit in the sizing bins are still OK to carry on if the wheels are the only thing preventing them from fitting.
#53
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There were about 20 through pax on my flight last week, and the exit rows were most definitely all occupied, along with both bulkhead aisle seats. Only two people boarded ahead of me at MCI, taking the second row aisles.
So, FA did allow seat shifters, as they should do.
So, FA did allow seat shifters, as they should do.
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To follow up, I was BS with A-3 boarding pass the other day. I got on the plane and put my backpack in the bin. About 30 seconds later, a very rude FA can over and ordered me to put the bag under the seat in front of me. I was in such shock that I did it. Then I realized that the plane was basically empty and it couldn't have been a request because bins were filling up.
Anyway, when I opened the bin to deplane at the end of the flight, there were NO bags in there at all!
The incident has me questioning my loyalty. This situation was totally uncalled for.
Anyway, when I opened the bin to deplane at the end of the flight, there were NO bags in there at all!
The incident has me questioning my loyalty. This situation was totally uncalled for.
If you had another bag the FA was correct (but they should have also known it was a pretty empty flight and bin space wouldn't be at a premium). Usually the GA makes an announcement saying FAA regulations allow one carryon and one smaller personal item that must fit under the seat in front of you. If that was your only item, the FA was out of line. If you had a larger big in the bin, then she was correct and it was your personal item and should have gone in the seat in front of you.
I usually carry on and my roller bag goes in the bin and my backpack in the seat in front of me and if I haven't been upgraded I hang on to my jacket until boarding is complete and if there is room in the bin, then I put my backpack and jacket up there. If not I hold on to my jacket or see if there is room in the bin to lay it neatly in front of the other bags and backpack goes underneath seat in front of me.
On the rare occasion I check a bag, the backpack goes in the bin and if I haven't been upgraded so does the jacket.
A tall guy from my office will check his carry on sized rollarbag if he hasn't been upgraded or isn't confirmed into EC or an exit row just so he has extra leg room and puts his backpack in the bin. He is actually freeing up bin space. If he was required to put the backpack in the seat in front of him, he would just carry on his rollerbag which takes up a lot more bin space