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Discussion of Chase RR Visa 40K-75K sigunup points offers -- NO REFERRALS!

Old Jan 23, 2014, 9:16 pm
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This thread is dedicated to Q&A about the Chase RR Visa signup bonus offers.

Post important Chase RR Visa news in the RR Visa News ONLY thread. (It will quickly get lost in this thread.)

Post or look for referral offers ONLY in the RR Visa referrals thread in the referrals thread of the credit card forum.

75,000 miles bonus for all Southwest Airlines personal credit cards.

40K + 20K personal Plus
offer:
$1,000 spend in three months for 40K. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

40K + 20K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.


70K Performance Business Card offer. $5,000 spend in three months. $199 annual fee, not waived the first year.

50K personal Plus offer $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

40K personal Plus offer: $1,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

40K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

50K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

60K Business Premier offer. $3,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

60K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

60K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

60K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 07-July-2017

50K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017

40K Personal Plus offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

50K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017

40K Personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

50K Business Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017

There have been targeted offers of 50K & $100 credit, for example:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24575935-post2302.html

Frequently Asked Questions about Rapid Rewards Visa

1. What are the different card types?
non-business Plus, non-business Premier, business Plus, and business Premier.
Premier cards have a higher annual fee but give 6000 anniversary bonus points vs. 3000 points for the Plus cards. It is generally agreed that you will get the bonus for a new account if you have not had that particular type of RR Visa card before, but Chase appears to be in the process of changing their policies (see below).

Note that prior to RR-2.0, the two types of RR Visa cards were "Classic" ($29 to $39 annual fee) and "Signature" ($59 to $69 annual fee). Plus and Premier are new products for purposes of the (soon to be retired?) "One bonus per product" rule.

2. Is there a zero annual fee version?
No.

3. Can I "churn" these cards? How often can I reapply for the same type card and get the signup bonus?
The official rule has recently changed more than once. Closely check the T&C of your offer as different rules may apply to concurrently available offers. The Inflight offer linked above states:
This bonus offer is available to you as long as you have not received a new cardmember bonus for this product in the past twenty four months.
Referral offers have been seen with a limit of one individual and one business bonus per lifetime (although T&C read by the CSR taking the application differed from those printed on the referral offer).

Actual results sometimes differ from the official rule. People have reported receiving the bonus a second time on the same card type at various intervals even when the bonus was officially once per lifefime per product. Please post your results here.

As of mid-May 2015 Chase has cracked down on applicants who appear to have much less than average attachment to their cards. Specifically, more than 5 applications within the past 24 months is the approximate cutoff: Chase crackdown on churners: Please report your RR Visa approvals/denials here

4. Can I cancel the card and still collect the anniversary bonus?
Yes. Reasonable people disagree on whether this crosses the line of exploiting the card issuer. The anniversary bonus is described a reward for having been a cardmember for the past year, not as a reward for paying the next year's annual fee. Based on that description, the bonus has been earned even if you then cancel the card. As a practical matter, there is a window of only a couple weeks to accomplish this. The bonus points will post on the billing date of the statement containing your new annual fee, which will have posted earlier in the billing cycle. You have 30 days from posting of the annual fee to cancel the card and have the new fee refunded.

5. Does the annual fee count toward the spending threshold for the signup bonus?
No.

6. When will my signup bonus post to my Rapid Rewards account?
If you have met the spending threshold at least several days before your statement date, the bonus will normally post 2 days after your statement date, not when you actually spent the money! Cutting the timing or the spending amount too closely is not advisable. Mistakes can happen.

7. My statement shows sufficient purchases to meet the spending threshold. Why didn't I receive the bonus?
This can happen if you met the spending threshold just a few days before the statement date. It appears that accounts are flagged for meeting the spending threshold independently of the statement generation process and less frequently than daily.

8. How can I determine my statement date?
You should call Chase (phone number on back of card) to check your next statement date. Credit card companies are now required to have payments due on the same numerical day of each month, which means closing dates vary throughout the year. (Before reforms enacted after the financial crisis, RR Visa cards had constant closing dates rather than constant due dates.) The closing date should remain within the same small range unless you request a change of your payment due date. When you request a change, Chase normally can delay your next statement but cannot accelerate it. If you are unwisely taking the risk of cutting your timing too close, you should call Chase more than once to confirm your next statement date.

9. I accidentally crossed the spending threshold in December rather than January. Can I return a large purchase to bring my spending back below the threshold?
Unlikely. It appears that the sweep to check spending threshold does not un-flag an account previously flagged as meeting the threshold. It's not even clear whether the sweep counts returns at all. If you realize the error before the statement closes and you have a payment due date change available, you might be able to push the December closing date into January.

10. Can I apply for a credit card in my wife's name but my Rapid Rewards number, so that the points funnel into my account?
People have tried this. Some have succeeded. Others have reported that Chase closed the account and posted no Rapid Rewards points. Do you feel lucky? Programs can become very aggressive when they suspect members of defrauding the program by using non-matching names. When you game the system you are only on solid ground if you follow the rules to the letter. Breaking the rules means that the program can penalize you if they want to, and believe me: They want to.

11. Can I scam this system in any other way? I just had a clever idea.
There is nothing new under the sun here on FlyerTalk. If it relates to established program rules and it isn't discussed here you can be confident your idea will not work.
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Discussion of Chase RR Visa 40K-75K sigunup points offers -- NO REFERRALS!

Old Nov 29, 2013, 9:36 am
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Originally Posted by no0neelse
I only see the Personal Premier and Business Premier versions. Does anyone know where I could find the other 2 versions?
I'm also looking for the "plus." Anyone?
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Old Nov 29, 2013, 12:32 pm
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I don't use the SWA card and thought the 50k in miles didn't apply to the cp. am I mistaken? I already have a CP for 2014 but would like to get a jump on 2015.
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Old Nov 29, 2013, 1:35 pm
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Originally Posted by billk60
I don't use the SWA card and thought the 50k in miles didn't apply to the cp. am I mistaken? I already have a CP for 2014 but would like to get a jump on 2015.
It does apply - straight from the SW website:
Companion Pass Qualifying Points are earned from revenue flights, points issued on Southwest Airlines Rapid Rewards Credit Cards, and points earned from Rapid Rewards Partners. Purchased points and points earned from program enrollment, Tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and Partner bonuses (with the exception of the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass status.
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Old Nov 29, 2013, 3:00 pm
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I tried canceling my business card today and was told that I will forfeit all miles earned if I do. What gives? Is this new policy? Anyone else also experience this? Should I hang up and call back?
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Old Nov 29, 2013, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by hiltonlondon2009
I tried canceling my business card today and was told that I will forfeit all miles earned if I do. What gives? Is this new policy? Anyone else also experience this? Should I hang up and call back?
Same old policy, just described to you poorly.

You will forfeit all points earned in the current statement period. i.e. you "forfeit" the points that haven't been posted to your Southwest account yet. This is the reason that one should not charge to the card if expecting to cancel during the same statement period.

Experience: canceled card earlier this month, "forfeited" 9 points in the form of not receiving 9 points in my RR account even though the CC statement stated 9 points were reported to WN.
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Old Nov 30, 2013, 2:21 pm
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I just wanted to clarify about the timing on a spend for the 50,000 bonus. I always thought if i spend in the CYCLE that ends in January then thats when my spend and the bonus would post. There's a discussion upthread though about not spending before a few minutes prior to midnight on 12/31. Is that just being super cautious or is that the way i need to approach this? Both of my statements close on 12/26, so i thought i could start spending then?

Something i wanted to meet spend on ends on 12/31 so thats why i was looking for clarification.

Thanks!
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Old Nov 30, 2013, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by stacylee
I just wanted to clarify about the timing on a spend for the 50,000 bonus. I always thought if i spend in the CYCLE that ends in January then thats when my spend and the bonus would post. There's a discussion upthread though about not spending before a few minutes prior to midnight on 12/31. Is that just being super cautious or is that the way i need to approach this? Both of my statements close on 12/26, so i thought i could start spending then?

Something i wanted to meet spend on ends on 12/31 so thats why i was looking for clarification.

Thanks!
It appears based on last year's evidence that if you spend after your Dec. statement drops, that you will be OK, with all that spending going toward 2014.

But nothing in this game is 100%.
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Old Dec 1, 2013, 10:27 am
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Premier and Plus offers nerfed to 25k?

Is it just me or is the Premier and Plus offers nerfed to 25k? I was waffling over doing these two + additional spend for a companion pass or the BA 100k offer. Chase may have just made my mind up for me.
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Old Dec 1, 2013, 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by toomanybooks
It appears based on last year's evidence that if you spend after your Dec. statement drops, that you will be OK, with all that spending going toward 2014.

But nothing in this game is 100%.
I can confirm this from my discussions with Chase. You should be OK for any spend after 12/26, because the points won't post until your next statement closes near the end of January.
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Old Dec 2, 2013, 2:47 pm
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Can anyone recommend what to do? My sister applied for both personal and business. Approved for personal for $5K CL, her first chase CC. She only has one other CC in her name plus a department store card. She's called busniess recon line twice and they keep saying she's denied because she only has the one CC. They won't even transfer any of the CL of the new personal card over to the business.

Any other recommendations?
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Old Dec 2, 2013, 9:13 pm
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Originally Posted by 1stTimeFlyer
I can confirm this from my discussions with Chase. You should be OK for any spend after 12/26, because the points won't post until your next statement closes near the end of January.
Except that mistakes can happen. You can pass the threshold too soon or the billing date can turn out to be different than you expected. Not likely, but possible.
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Old Dec 3, 2013, 11:53 am
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So is there a consensus on when the points actually post to the RR account relative to when the card is first charged the full $2000? I've seen some say it's when the purchases are made, others say once the statement period ends. errr I think I read both of those possibilities.

I'm in the other boat, I have CP now and only need 20,000 or so points to renew for 2014 but I won't be traveling for a couple months, so I'd like to get those points credited this calendar year and not next if possible so I can at least have it for another year.

Oh, and for others who asked, I got the 50k points offer in the mail just last week as well.
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Old Dec 3, 2013, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Marko123
So is there a consensus on when the points actually post to the RR account relative to when the card is first charged the full $2000? I've seen some say it's when the purchases are made, others say once the statement period ends.
The latter. It's just that some FTers have been surprised by when the statement actually drops, e.g. Chase didn't move the date as expected.

FWIW there are still 50k signs all around LAX Terminal 1 with no expiration date indicated. This deal may continue indefinitely, especially at the new 70 points per dollar redemption price.
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Old Dec 3, 2013, 8:00 pm
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I needed the 6000 points early this year to complete my 110,000 points for Companion Pass. I bought Choice Hotel points to do so. The conversion rate was 3:1 so I needed to buy 18,000 points. [The points were transferable in 6000 point chunks only] I actually ended up buying 17,000 points for $187 as they had a 10% bonus deal at the time. They were credited quickly to my new Choice account, and the conversion was equally fast and easy. You can only buy a maximum of 10,000 points at a time, so it took 2 purchases. I ended up with 5400 SW points using the Choice points and the last 600 were easy enough from ordinary purhcases. I got my Companion Pass in early Feb, 2013.

The 10% bonus is currently available:

http://www.choicehotels.com/ires/en-....7ioVOg1BvM.11
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Old Dec 4, 2013, 12:52 am
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Title says "alive" but links are dead for the personal Plus and Premier cards in the top of the first post (page says something like "offer expired"). Tried in Incognito window. Are those the right links?

EDIT: looks like those are not the right links, and only the Premier cards are alive.

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