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Discussion of Chase RR Visa 40K-75K sigunup points offers -- NO REFERRALS!

Old Jan 23, 2014, 9:16 pm
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Do not post referral offers or requests in this thread. All such posts will be deleted.

This thread is dedicated to Q&A about the Chase RR Visa signup bonus offers.

Post important Chase RR Visa news in the RR Visa News ONLY thread. (It will quickly get lost in this thread.)

Post or look for referral offers ONLY in the RR Visa referrals thread in the referrals thread of the credit card forum.

75,000 miles bonus for all Southwest Airlines personal credit cards.

40K + 20K personal Plus
offer:
$1,000 spend in three months for 40K. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

40K + 20K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.


70K Performance Business Card offer. $5,000 spend in three months. $199 annual fee, not waived the first year.

50K personal Plus offer $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

40K personal Plus offer: $1,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

40K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

50K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

60K Business Premier offer. $3,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

60K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

60K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

60K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 07-July-2017

50K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017

40K Personal Plus offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

50K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017

40K Personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

50K Business Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017

There have been targeted offers of 50K & $100 credit, for example:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24575935-post2302.html

Frequently Asked Questions about Rapid Rewards Visa

1. What are the different card types?
non-business Plus, non-business Premier, business Plus, and business Premier.
Premier cards have a higher annual fee but give 6000 anniversary bonus points vs. 3000 points for the Plus cards. It is generally agreed that you will get the bonus for a new account if you have not had that particular type of RR Visa card before, but Chase appears to be in the process of changing their policies (see below).

Note that prior to RR-2.0, the two types of RR Visa cards were "Classic" ($29 to $39 annual fee) and "Signature" ($59 to $69 annual fee). Plus and Premier are new products for purposes of the (soon to be retired?) "One bonus per product" rule.

2. Is there a zero annual fee version?
No.

3. Can I "churn" these cards? How often can I reapply for the same type card and get the signup bonus?
The official rule has recently changed more than once. Closely check the T&C of your offer as different rules may apply to concurrently available offers. The Inflight offer linked above states:
This bonus offer is available to you as long as you have not received a new cardmember bonus for this product in the past twenty four months.
Referral offers have been seen with a limit of one individual and one business bonus per lifetime (although T&C read by the CSR taking the application differed from those printed on the referral offer).

Actual results sometimes differ from the official rule. People have reported receiving the bonus a second time on the same card type at various intervals even when the bonus was officially once per lifefime per product. Please post your results here.

As of mid-May 2015 Chase has cracked down on applicants who appear to have much less than average attachment to their cards. Specifically, more than 5 applications within the past 24 months is the approximate cutoff: Chase crackdown on churners: Please report your RR Visa approvals/denials here

4. Can I cancel the card and still collect the anniversary bonus?
Yes. Reasonable people disagree on whether this crosses the line of exploiting the card issuer. The anniversary bonus is described a reward for having been a cardmember for the past year, not as a reward for paying the next year's annual fee. Based on that description, the bonus has been earned even if you then cancel the card. As a practical matter, there is a window of only a couple weeks to accomplish this. The bonus points will post on the billing date of the statement containing your new annual fee, which will have posted earlier in the billing cycle. You have 30 days from posting of the annual fee to cancel the card and have the new fee refunded.

5. Does the annual fee count toward the spending threshold for the signup bonus?
No.

6. When will my signup bonus post to my Rapid Rewards account?
If you have met the spending threshold at least several days before your statement date, the bonus will normally post 2 days after your statement date, not when you actually spent the money! Cutting the timing or the spending amount too closely is not advisable. Mistakes can happen.

7. My statement shows sufficient purchases to meet the spending threshold. Why didn't I receive the bonus?
This can happen if you met the spending threshold just a few days before the statement date. It appears that accounts are flagged for meeting the spending threshold independently of the statement generation process and less frequently than daily.

8. How can I determine my statement date?
You should call Chase (phone number on back of card) to check your next statement date. Credit card companies are now required to have payments due on the same numerical day of each month, which means closing dates vary throughout the year. (Before reforms enacted after the financial crisis, RR Visa cards had constant closing dates rather than constant due dates.) The closing date should remain within the same small range unless you request a change of your payment due date. When you request a change, Chase normally can delay your next statement but cannot accelerate it. If you are unwisely taking the risk of cutting your timing too close, you should call Chase more than once to confirm your next statement date.

9. I accidentally crossed the spending threshold in December rather than January. Can I return a large purchase to bring my spending back below the threshold?
Unlikely. It appears that the sweep to check spending threshold does not un-flag an account previously flagged as meeting the threshold. It's not even clear whether the sweep counts returns at all. If you realize the error before the statement closes and you have a payment due date change available, you might be able to push the December closing date into January.

10. Can I apply for a credit card in my wife's name but my Rapid Rewards number, so that the points funnel into my account?
People have tried this. Some have succeeded. Others have reported that Chase closed the account and posted no Rapid Rewards points. Do you feel lucky? Programs can become very aggressive when they suspect members of defrauding the program by using non-matching names. When you game the system you are only on solid ground if you follow the rules to the letter. Breaking the rules means that the program can penalize you if they want to, and believe me: They want to.

11. Can I scam this system in any other way? I just had a clever idea.
There is nothing new under the sun here on FlyerTalk. If it relates to established program rules and it isn't discussed here you can be confident your idea will not work.
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Discussion of Chase RR Visa 40K-75K sigunup points offers -- NO REFERRALS!

Old Nov 18, 2013, 3:22 pm
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OK. Found the number. Called. Now approved for both personal and business cards. I have studied this thread but wan to make sure I understand the strategy.

The object is to not spend more than $2,000 on each card until after 12/31/2013. Spending $2,000 on each card early in January 2014 will earn 100,000 bonus points towards a 2014-2015 CP. Which means CP status will be earned after my second RT in January.

Is there a fast way to the A-List?
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by captiveguru
Is there a fast way to the A-List?
Did you get the Premier version of the card(s)?

TQPs toward A-List qualification are earned by (and only by):

1) Flying (Base: 6x/10x/12x for WGA/AT/BS fares + any specifically TQP-qualifying promos); and

2) 1,500 TQPs per $10,000 spend on a Premier version of the card - max of 15,000 TQPs per year per card.
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 4:30 pm
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see post below

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Old Nov 18, 2013, 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by FindAWay
Did you get the Premier version of the card(s)?

TQPs toward A-List qualification are earned by (and only by):

1) Flying (Base: 6x/10x/12x for WGA/AT/BS fares + any specifically TQP-qualifying promos); and

2) 1,500 TQPs per $10,000 spend on a Premier version of the card - max of 15,000 TQPs per year per card.
Yes. Premier on both (30K more miles at renewal for $30 more dollars seemed like a smart choice). Do I need to hold back on spending until after 12/31/2013?
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 8:13 pm
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All 110,000 miles have to post to your account in 2014 to have the companion pass for 2014 & 2015.

I'm looking at 3k spend in Jan & Feb on AP... remaining on purchases, VRs
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 8:40 pm
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If some post in 2013 and the rest in 2014, do you at least get the companion pass for the entire 2014 year?
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 9:10 pm
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Originally Posted by doss1
If some post in 2013 and the rest in 2014, do you at least get the companion pass for the entire 2014 year?
In a word, No.

http://www.southwest.com/rapidreward...V-RR-COMPANION

The Keywords as stated in the rules: "in a calendar year".

The counters for both Companion Pass Qualification and A-List/A-List Preferred Qualification both reset on the first day of the new year (or at some point overnight NYE).

Mr. INK has assembled an extremely clear and easy to follow explanation of Rapid Rewards qualifications, specifically outlining the infamous Three Different Buckets Of Points within Rapid Rewards and the differences between those buckets.

Search is your friend.
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by steved5480

Mr. INK has assembled an extremely clear and easy to follow explanation of Rapid Rewards qualifications, specifically outlining the infamous Three Different Buckets Of Points within Rapid Rewards and the differences between those buckets.

Search is your friend.
I would love to read Mr. Ink's essay. Have searched without success. I guess I need another clue.
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by captiveguru
I would love to read Mr. Ink's essay. Have searched without success. I guess I need another clue.
Originally Posted by InkUnderNails
There are three types of points kept in three completely different piles.

Companion Pass Points or CPQP. These are collected from paid flights, credit cards, partners and spending. When you get 110,000 you get companion pass for the remainder of the year and all of the next. At the end of the year, WN takes this stack of points and you start from 0.

Tier Qualification Points or TQP. This is the pile that determines when you get A-List (35,000) or Preferred (70,000). They are harder to get as only flying and specific credit card spend can be used to get these points. There are specials to multiply the points, but you still have to fly. At the end of the year, WN takes away all of these points and you start from 0.

Then there are Rapid Rewards Points. These are the points in your account that you can spend to take flights and other things they come from nearly everywhere: paid flights, partners, CC spend, bonuses. These are yours to keep or spend as long as you have account activity from time to time (23 months as I remember it).
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 7:47 am
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Thanks. I was searching for buckets not piles.
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 2:54 pm
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Sign up bonus for A-List?

Does anyone know if the CC signup bonus qualifies for A-List point requirements? Thanks!
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by tryanjordan
Does anyone know if the CC signup bonus qualifies for A-List point requirements? Thanks!
Yes, I know. They do not. And, if you looked only a handful of posts above your post or searched, you would have found the answer:


Originally Posted by FindAWay
Did you get the Premier version of the card(s)?

TQPs toward A-List qualification are earned by (and only by):

1) Flying (Base: 6x/10x/12x for WGA/AT/BS fares + any specifically TQP-qualifying promos); and

2) 1,500 TQPs per $10,000 spend on a Premier version of the card - max of 15,000 TQPs per year per card.
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 8:23 pm
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Originally Posted by captiveguru
OK. Found the number. Called. Now approved for both personal and business cards. I have studied this thread but wan to make sure I understand the strategy.

The object is to not spend more than $2,000 on each card until after 12/31/2013. Spending $2,000 on each card early in January 2014 will earn 100,000 bonus points towards a 2014-2015 CP. Which means CP status will be earned after my second RT in January.
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 8:36 pm
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Hi everyone, I think I'm a little late to the party here because all the links I see now at SW and chase.com only offer the 25,000 point promo. Just wanted to make sure that was the case, or am I missing something? I currently have the CP and it's great but I've stopped traveling for a bit and I won't be able to renew it for 2014 unless I get the 50k promo by the end of 2013 (and it's probably too late in the year to get the points credited in time anyway).

I guess now my best bet is to start fresh in 2014, maybe catch onto another 50k promo if it comes back, and hope I can get it for most of 2014 and 2015.
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Old Nov 20, 2013, 7:13 am
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2 roundtrip flights, aka 50,000 miles is still live for all 4 versions

https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/southwest/offer (business link before fine print)

DO NOT spend more than $2,000 until January 01, 2014 on either one.
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